I would like to make a few corrections to this "not fully correct" report.
First, of all it was NOT a pitbull, it was a Cane Corso mix. Second, the dog was a trained attack dog. The guy (the woman's live in boyfriend) referred to the dog to people as " my monster dog " and used to train the dog by kicking him in the ribs and slapping him in the head. Also, would tie up stuffed animals on fences and dangle them from trees and have the dog shred them up in front of people (example: by the school yard). Third, everyone INCLUDING the neighbors were afraid of this dog and would not go near him. Fourth, the face was not ripped off, the poor baby had a whole in the back of his head, neck and torso. The dog nor the children are too be blamed. The only ones are the parents .....
I have to apologize .. I think we are talking about two different stories here..... There was a child killed on Friday night.
http://www.nypost.com/p/news/local/b...36679777fe1876
sorry for my error to this ...
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"It took the strength of ten firemen to subdue the vicious dog, he said."
Holy fuck.
EDIT: The baby’s great-grandfather Ameer Jamaal-Uddin, 59
While I agree that the dog is largely responsible when shit like this happens, the owners arent exactly free from blame. If any dog is trained for protection, security or just to look mean and tough then it shouldnt be any suprise to the owners when a tragedy like this happens.
My dogs are a giant breed. My female especially looks fucking mean, like she could def hurt you AND she probably would if she thought she was in danger or her human family was in danger.
Would I kill my 3 Mastiffs that I totally fucking adore and sleep with and cuddle with and roll on the ground with if they hurt a child or adult?
FUCK YEAH I WOULD.
I question how a dog can be "responsible" - its a DOG.
Its rough integrating animals and kids-unexpected things happen because, well the animals are animals and kids are kids! Shhit may happen regardless of the precautions taken, but if the precautions are not at the least put in place...bad bad move on the adult humans in the situation.
I LOVED LOVED LOVED my sweet baby pit mix...but when little red came around and the dog got jealous, shit changed in a hurry- it wouldnt be fair otherwise to anyone, including the dog.
Jigga please.
These dogs have jobs and shit, but suddenly when they hurt or kill someone they're innocent and not responsible?
Get the fuck outta here.
It's not like blaming a knife for stabbing. These creatures are intelligent and aware and should 100% be held responsible. Someone may kill cause they had a shitty childhood, but we still put them in jail.
Well, the dog is responsible for the attack but the owners are responsible for being fucking idiots.
Lemme say: when I was little, I learned the hard way that it was ill-advised to annoy cats. My mom's preferred the open-hand slap. I have a policy on babies and cats: cats are very, very gentle around babies, and they hardly ever pull their claws. They tend to do the whole 'spank on the butt' human thing but with their paws. I've known asshole cats and I would never have one of those, and definitely not let a kid play with it.
However with dogs: I like dogs. I've always had a pet dog. But even the sweetest, best dog with a great disposition will bite you if you get in its way. My brother got seriously fucked up by our shar pei when he tried to break up a fight between her and our other dog. That dog would never hurt anyone--normally--but she bit him.
This is the thing with dogs. The most loyal dog in the world can cause you serious damage on a whim. Which is why they don't mix well with little kids, who are constantly fumbling and poking things.
Agreed. The owners are idiots, but I don't get people that are like "awww, that poor doggy never had a chance with those meanie owners" after a dog kills a fucking child. And then people want to take the fucking thing into their home?? I mean seriously!?! Fuck that dog!
It's funny that I don't care much for dogs cause I've never been bitten by a dog but a cat attacked me when I was 7, and I still have the scars on my leg from that shit. It was a bloody scene at a friends house but it was no biggie to me. I remember the kid's parents freaked out, but they had a bloody kid on their hands so I can imagine how bad they thought things would get. Ha.
I like dogs. I consider myself a dog person. but Im also not a moron. Having a dog -especially a big one- is like having a loaded gun, which I also have. But I lock up my gun in a safe spot so my kid cant shoot herself, and I muzzle my dog when hes around my kid. Hes never bitten anyone, never even so much as growled, but hes dangerous anyway as far as Im concerned. dogs cant say " back the fuck off kid youre annoying me" by the time you know hes annoyed, you kid could be dead.
I remember walking my dog one day and this small boy, couldnt have been more than 5, runs up going "doggie" well, my dogs nice, but his parents have no way of knowing that. So here he is running up to a strange 100 pound pit bull trying to pet it. After talking to the kids mom, I found out that hes been attacked by a pit before! what kind of dumbass has their kid go through something like that and still let him run up to strange dogs?
so I say " hes pretty brave considering" and she says. "Yeah I know, I cant stop him." How can you not stop a 5 year old child from running up to strangers? momfail. hard.
Im not even being snarky here but Im genuinely surprised. Maybe Im defining the word "responsible" differently..
Im looking at it like its a higher level function that an animal cannot obtain. Im saying that in the same breath that I say a dog that attacks humans needs to be put down ( barring some extenuating circumstances). Dogs do dog things- including chewing off a kids face if the dog feels anxious or threatened or afraid or whatever. Thats not the same as "responsible" though.
I've known people get rid of their cats when they have kids. But a breed of dog inherently inclined to aggression? That's cool.
On my OH's 30th birthday, we ended up at a friend's house. Said friend's roommate had a HUGE pit bull, at least 100lbs, his head was bigger than mine. Not fixed. Skittish around strangers. My very drunk OH wanted to play. I was the one to simultaneously beg the drunk man to heed the growling and baring of teeth and try to calm this beast of a dog. Fucking irresponsible owner. People should need permits to own this kind of dog.
I think some people are lunatics, and some people are arguing the semantics over who is responsible when an animal acts like an animal ( or reacts) and a tragedy occurs.
Im hoping more people are asking what the adult humans were doing than saying "mmm baby flavored dog food".
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