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    10-yr Old Boy Shoots and Kills His Neo-Nazi Father


    The 10-year-old boy accused in the shooting death of his neo-Nazi father will not be arraigned on murder charges until July.

    A Riverside County Superior Court judge postponed the arraignment Wednesday so the boy - who has not been named due to his age - could undergo a psychological evaluation requested by the attorney defending him, according to a report by the Press-Enterprise.

    Police say the boy intentionally shot and killed his father, 32-year-old Jeff Hall, May 1 at Hall's Riverside home. Hall was the California director of the National Socialist Movement, the nation's largest neo-Nazi group

    The boy's attorney may be able to enter a plea of not guilty by reason of insanity on his behalf, depending on the results of the evaluation. The boy will not be charged as an adult.

    The Press-Enterprise reports that the boy has admitted to police that he shot his father. If found guilty on the charges against him, he could remain in custody at a juvenile hall facility until he is 20.

    Police say the boy said he pulled the .357 revolver's hammer back and fired it after pointing it at his father's ear, according to a court declaration obtained by KTLA partner the Los Angeles Times. The boy then went upstairs and hid the gun under his bed.

    The boy also told police that Hall beat him, his stepmother, Krista Faye McCary, 26, and the couple's other children, according to a report by the Times. He thought Hall was "cheating on his mom" and thought he would have to choose between parents.

    The Riverside County District Attorney's Office issued an arrest warrant Tuesday for Hall's wife, McCary, saying she was responsible for leaving the gun that killed Hall within reach of her son, the Press-Enterprise reports.

    As of Wednesday afternoon, McCary had not yet been arrested, police said.

    Prosecutors charged McCary Tuesday night with five counts of child endangerment and four counts of criminal storage of a firearm.

    The boy's 9-year-old sister told police she had been target shooting with her parents and where the guns were kept in the home, according to the Times report.

    Hall ran for a seat on the Western Municipal Water District but lost in the November election. His bid for the seat drew outcry from community groups dismayed that a neo-Nazi who held racist rallies at a day laborer center and a synagogue wanted to administer their water.

    He lost his November bid to replace incumbent Tom Evans on the Western Riverside Municipal Water District board.

    McCary was not the boy's mother, according to the Press-Enterprise report. Hall had sole custody of the boy and his 9-year-old sister.He had both children from a previous marriage.

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    What in the fuck happened to the real mother for her to not have custody of these kids to this lameass? I feel for the kid. He's going to have a lot to sort through over this, but yeah, I hope he ultimately comes to the conclusion that he did the world a favor.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Peavey View Post
    What in the fuck happened to the real mother for her to not have custody of these kids to this lameass? I feel for the kid. He's going to have a lot to sort through over this, but yeah, I hope he ultimately comes to the conclusion that he did the world a favor.
    Not when he gets put in kiddie prison with anyone but white kids.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Chauncy View Post
    Not when he gets put in kiddie prison with anyone but white kids.
    You don't think that killing a racist hate monger would give him credibility in that context? I don't know, of course, because what I know about prison comes from textbooks.

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    http://gawker.com/5803339/ten+year+o...s-neo+nazi-dad

    Ten-Year-Old Explains Why He Shot His Neo-Nazi Dad
    Max Read —Earlier this month, Riverside, Calif. police arrested a 10-year-old boy for the murder of his father, neo-Nazi leader and water board candidate Jeff Hall. At the time, police didn't attribute the motive. Now, a court declaration reveals details about the case — including why, and how, the boy killed his father. It doesn't make the story any less tragic, in case that's what you're thinking.

    Apparently the fourth-grader — who, like his nine-year-old sister, knew where all of his parents' guns were kept — took a Rossi .357 revolver from a closet early one morning:

    [Redacted] told Detective [Roberta] Hopewell that he went downstairs with the gun, pulled the hammer back, aimed the gun at his dad's ear while he was asleep and shot him. [Redacted] said he went upstairs and hid the gun under his bed.

    As for why:

    [Redacted]... admitted during the interview that he was tired of his dad hitting him and his [step-]mom. [He] said he thought his dad was cheating on his [step=]mom and thought he might have to choose which person he would live with.

    The scene on the detective's arrival didn't paint a picture of domestic bliss, either. The Hall house was reportedly "filthy." "The bedrooms smelled like urine," the report explains, and the bedding — including the mattresses — was "stained and soiled." The decoration downstairs: A National Socialist Movement flag and a California Republic flag.

    And the guns. The court document is part of a case against the boy's stepmother, Krista McCary, for child endangerment and failure to properly store a firearm; the detective account confirms that not only did Hall and McCary keep several weapons, but that "three out of the four children" knew the (easily-accessible) location of the .357 revolver.

    Given the apparent physical abuse, where was Child Protective Services? According to the report, the agency had "numerous contacts" with the Hall-McCary household but "most of the allegations were unfounded" — reported as part of a "bitter child custody dispute" between Hall and his ex-wife. Clearly, CPS will be playing a role going forward. The boy, for his part, will go a court-ordered mental-health evaluation soon.

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    yeah, there is always more to the story. I am anxious to hear what the step mother says. If she says that the situation was that grim, and a 10 year old with basically trained knowledge of weapons and the ability to access them was the absolute case, fuck, give the kid massive amounts of the best therapy and apeople that will show him love.


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    If he's lucky he'll go to the California Youth Authority in Camarillo, Ca.
    Not only is it co-ed but they train you to be fire fighters with CDF.

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    Quote Originally Posted by g r ee n ey e s View Post
    Yeah, I didn't know how to feel about this one.
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    Hmmm... he didn't want to have to chose between his dad and his step-mom i they were to divorce?... so instead he just made that decision ahead of time! lol. ... 'and I chose.... MOM! Boom!!"

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    I'll probably get flack for this, but good for the kid. I'm all for a little corporal punishment, but there is a big difference between smacking your kid and abuse, and the guy was clearly abusing his wife and kid. I think everybody is entitled to their own beliefs, so I won't comment on his Neo-Nazism, but beating his 10-yr old son... he had it coming.
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    Hey, those guys are always beating the shit out of their kids and telling them to fight back like a man.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Gram Parsons View Post
    I'll probably get flack for this, but good for the kid. I'm all for a little corporal punishment, but there is a big difference between smacking your kid and abuse, and the guy was clearly abusing his wife and kid. I think everybody is entitled to their own beliefs, so I won't comment on his Neo-Nazism, but beating his 10-yr old son... he had it coming.
    I agree.

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    I have a friend whose husband is kinda neo nazi-ish like that. I think hes mainly a poser though. Anyways I watch this guy pick on his 5 year old son until he cries and he thinks its HILARIOUS. I fucking hate that guy.

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    All neo-Nazis are posers. Hateful, stupid, ignorant posers. They're attracted to the movement because they're bullies.

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    My ex turned into a big "white pride" idiot after we stopped dating. I find it hilarious seeing as how his daughter is half mexican.....

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    Quote Originally Posted by bowieluva View Post
    All neo-Nazis are posers. Hateful, stupid, ignorant posers. They're attracted to the movement because they're bullies.
    Exactly. My friend had posted a picture of a neo-nazi guy on fb with the title "disgusting". I agreed and expressed how much I despised them. This one guy actually said this
    So calling them stupid based on their believes is no different then them thinking she is less of a person then them based on color, religion, and etc. He may be great dad, great son and good husband but he is stupid in ur eyes based on his symbol on his jacket, doesn't really make sense....
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    Tell that guy I definitely think he's stupid based on his believes.

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    Quote Originally Posted by jessielee View Post
    I have a friend whose husband is kinda neo nazi-ish like that. I think hes mainly a poser though. Anyways I watch this guy pick on his 5 year old son until he cries and he thinks its HILARIOUS. I fucking hate that guy.
    Maybe we're not so different after all.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Ron_NYC View Post
    Maybe we're not so different after all.
    I guess I may as well admit that Ive been guilty of thinking it was kinda funny once or twice myself and had to force back laughter, but thats only because that kid was kind of a dick.

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