But it seems as if Tyler was quite adept as using a webcam himself:
(NSFW!!) www.cam4.com/cit2mo
He was a member since July 19, 2009 and the profile fits.
Although maybe he was happy to broadcast the money shots to all and sundry rather than his face as Dharun's one did?
[quote author=Accountable link=topic=27198.msg1726347#msg1726347 date=1285898974]
But it seems as if Tyler was quite adept as using a webcam himself:
(NSFW!!) www.cam4.com/cit2mo
He was a member since July 19, 2009 and the profile fits.
Although maybe he was happy to broadcast the money shots to all and sundry rather than his face as Dharun's one did?
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That was on the link posted earlier. Doing that for strangers (and without face, as you mentioned) is one thing. Being exposed and humiliated among your peers is another.
[quote author=Accountable link=topic=27198.msg1726347#msg1726347 date=1285898974]
But it seems as if Tyler was quite adept as using a webcam himself:
(NSFW!!) www.cam4.com/cit2mo
He was a member since July 19, 2009 and the profile fits.
Although maybe he was happy to broadcast the money shots to all and sundry rather than his face as Dharun's one did?
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The age isn't right. How do you know that's him?
I think there is a lot of difference between posting that without your face in it and having someone post you having sex including face shots.
Originally Posted by beli
I wonder how his body got upstream. The bridge is at 179th street and he was found at 210th. The water flows downtown into the Atlantic.
For example the chef that recently killed himself was found around 30th street I believe, or 130th.
What would make the body go against the current of he river? Maybe he was dragged by a boat?
On the news they said he died from blunt injuries and drowning so he was alive in the water, (if that's true), hopefully he was unconscious .
This is really sad. Poor guy didn't have to go out like that.
There was also a comment he (tyler) made on a gay website after his roomate first
Saw him through the webcam...
Something like "roommate saw me make out with a guy, the school probably won't do anything about it"
I wonder if, after the first time he was going to tell on his roommate or if he thought he'd get in trouble by the school?
I also means that Tyler knew his roommate spied on him... Right?
I've been super busy with work all day, and so could not follow the thread with the dedication it deserves. Have his parents been quoted at all regarding their son's death?
[quote author=ZoMyGoddess! link=topic=27198.msg1726355#msg1726355 date=1285899402]
I wonder how his body got upstream. The bridge is at 179th street and he was found at 210th. The water flows downtown into the Atlantic.
For example the chef that recently killed himself was found around 30th street I believe, or 130th.
What would make the body go against the current of he river? Maybe he was dragged by a boat?
On the news they said he died from blunt injuries and drowning so he was alive in the water, (if that's true), hopefully he was unconscious .
This is really sad. Poor guy didn't have to go out like that.
There was also a comment he (tyler) made on a gay website after his roomate first
Saw him through the webcam...
Something like "roommate saw me make out with a guy, the school probably won't do anything about it"
I wonder if, after the first time he was going to tell on his roommate or if he thought he'd get in trouble by the school?
I also means that Tyler knew his roommate spied on him... Right?
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Yep. And my question is if he knew the room mate did it before, why did he have another tryst in the same room? Did he like the voyeurism maybe but when it was posted for the world wide web it was too much for him?
[quote author=verysad2see link=topic=27198.msg1726358#msg1726358 date=1285899650]
I've been super busy with work all day, and so could not follow the thread with the dedication it deserves. Have his parents been quoted at all regarding their son's death?
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Their attorney announced the death. I don't think the parents have made a statement yet.
[quote author=berryblu link=topic=27198.msg1726362#msg1726362 date=1285899777]
Yep. And my question is if he knew the room mate did it before, why did he have another tryst in the same room? Did he like the voyeurism maybe but when it was posted for the world wide web it was too much for him?
[/quote]My college roommate and I would bang in the same room, and if either of us would have shared it with anyone else, the other would have been devastated. It's not really the same.
[quote author=deeply shaded link=topic=27198.msg1726354#msg1726354 date=1285899338]
The age isn't right. How do you know that's him?
I think there is a lot of difference between posting that without your face in it and having someone post you having sex including face shots.
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Same user name he was using on the other site he was posting on when he was asking for advice on his roommate spying on him.
I agree with face versus other body parts (as I said in my first post) being streamed but we can't even say he DIDN'T show his face on that. He seems to have been quite comfortable with his sexuality so with that in mind is there something more sinister behind this? Going from posting rational things to jumping off a bridge a few hours later just does not add up.
[quote author=Nancy Drew link=topic=27198.msg1726370#msg1726370 date=1285900139]
My college roommate and I would bang in the same room, and if either of us would have shared it with anyone else, the other would have been devastated. It's not really the same.
[/quote] noo, i think they're saying that he knew that his roommate SPIED on him before, so if he knew that, why would he keep having relations in that same room.
"Since change is constant, you wonder if people crave death because it's the only way they can get anything really finished." -Chuck Palahniuk
I love everyone except Amy.Amy's taste > Tara's
I am thinking there are details that havent been shared. If they are pursuing it as a "hate crime", they must have some evidence to the effect that it was based anti-homosexual sentiment?
And while these two douchezillas did not push him off the bridge, they are responsible for tormenting him.THAT needs to be punished - the whole idea of someone broadcasting this kid having sex to mock him, is repugnant. I think we will here more that will clarify the situation. Wss Tyler humiliated at being outed as homosexual, or for having an intimate moment broadcast to ridicule him? Or, was it a chain reaction and the guy he was with ditched him after they found out?
Its just ugly all the way around, and these two jerks do need to see their actions have consequences.
You're entitled to your own opinions. You're not entitled to your own facts.- D. Moynihan
I read in one of the articles - that he had checked his roommate's Twitter account and saw that he had been spied on.
When he went to use the room for a second tryst - he said he noticed that the roommate's webcam was pointed at his bed and unplugged it and scoured the room for any other recording devices.
[quote author=Karalicious link=topic=27198.msg1726380#msg1726380 date=1285900518]
noo, i think they're saying that he knew that his roommate SPIED on him before, so if he knew that, why would he keep having relations in that same room.
[/quote]Oh. Ignore what I just said, then. I wouldn't do that. That's gross.
[quote author=Accountable link=topic=27198.msg1726379#msg1726379 date=1285900469]
Same user name he was using on the other site he was posting on when he was asking for advice on his roommate spying on him.
I agree with face versus other body parts (as I said in my first post) being streamed but we can't even say he DIDN'T show his face on that. He seems to have been quite comfortable with his sexuality so with that in mind is there something more sinister behind this? Going from posting rational things to jumping off a bridge a few hours later just does not add up.
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I think there is even a difference between him posting himself having sex and the roommate spying on him and live streaming it. It's just wrong. That's all.
I don't think this 'outed' him as gay. I think he was already out. I'm also confused about posting about it like it's not such a big deal then offing himself. I still want to punch the spying asshole in the face, though.
[quote author=Monter link=topic=27198.msg1726383#msg1726383 date=1285900585]
I am thinking there are details that havent been shared. If they are pursuing it as a "hate crime", they must have some evidence to the effect that it was based anti-homosexual sentiment?
[/quote]I don't think they are. Activists are saying that it is.
[quote author=Nancy Drew link=topic=27198.msg1726390#msg1726390 date=1285900879]
I don't think they are. Activists are saying that it is.
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Id like to pretend they would make sure.... but im not THAT dumb :lol:
You're entitled to your own opinions. You're not entitled to your own facts.- D. Moynihan
http://www.nytimes.com/2010/10/01/ny...p;ref=nyregion
I didn't see this posted here yet but if it has I apologize...
Mr. Ravi had made references to his roommate’s homosexuality in Twitter posts. Even before they arrived on campus, Mr. Ravi sent a message on Aug. 22 that he had “found out my roommate is gay,” and included a link to JustUsBoys.com.
The postings on the gay chat site last week, reported Wednesday on the Web site Gawker, appear to show Mr. Clementi’s reactions as he read Mr. Ravi’s posts about the camera, and the apparent disdain for his homosexuality.
“And so I feel like it was ‘look at what a fag my roommate is,’ ” he wrote on Sept. 21. “Other people have commented on his profile with things like ‘how did you manage to go back in there?’ and ‘are you ok?’ and the fact that the people he was with saw my making out with a guy as the scandal whereas I mean come on ... he was SPYING ON ME ... do they see something wrong with this?”
[quote author=deeply shaded link=topic=27198.msg1726389#msg1726389 date=1285900782]
I think there is even a difference between him posting himself having sex and the roommate spying on him and live streaming it. It's just wrong. That's all.
I don't think this 'outed' him as gay. I think he was already out. I'm also confused about posting about it like it's not such a big deal then offing himself. I still want to punch the spying asshole in the face, though.
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Yep this issue and the charges that should be levelled at these two kids should revolve around the spying/invasion of privacy. The fact he was homosexual is irrelevant.
Dharun the Douche was no he-man himself. He reportedly was into ping pong and frisbee. No mention of starring on the football team. Bullied because he himself was being bullied?
But I still reckon there had to be something else which pushed Tyler to do what he did. RIP
[quote author=nyyankeeschick link=topic=27198.msg1726397#msg1726397 date=1285901486]
http://www.nytimes.com/2010/10/01/ny...p;ref=nyregion
I didn't see this posted here yet but if it has I apologize...
Mr. Ravi had made references to his roommate’s homosexuality in Twitter posts. Even before they arrived on campus, Mr. Ravi sent a message on Aug. 22 that he had “found out my roommate is gay,” and included a link to JustUsBoys.com.
The postings on the gay chat site last week, reported Wednesday on the Web site Gawker, appear to show Mr. Clementi’s reactions as he read Mr. Ravi’s posts about the camera, and the apparent disdain for his homosexuality.
“And so I feel like it was ‘look at what a beaver my roommate is,’ ” he wrote on Sept. 21. “Other people have commented on his profile with things like ‘how did you manage to go back in there?’ and ‘are you ok?’ and the fact that the people he was with saw my making out with a guy as the scandal whereas I mean come on ... he was SPYING ON ME ... do they see something wrong with this?”
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I think this is exactly where it crosses the line into potential hate crime.
If he was being targeted for ridicule and humiliation because he was gay, its a hate crime. So...the act itself speaks to that right?
You're entitled to your own opinions. You're not entitled to your own facts.- D. Moynihan
Ravi seems like a total dick. What college kid in this day and age has a problem with someone's sexual proclivity? I just don't get it. I have a hard time wrapping my head around the fact that a kid smart enough to get into a college like that could be so ass-fucking-backwards. I know, it takes all kinds, I just would like to think that with education comes acceptance and understanding.
WTF does this...
"Dharun the Douche was no he-man himself. He reportedly was into ping pong and frisbee. No mention of starring on the football team. Bullied because he himself was being bullied?"
Have to do with someones manliness or the fact that he is a fucking asshole?
[quote author=yellowCake1 link=topic=27198.msg1726432#msg1726432 date=1285904029]
WTF does this...
"Dharun the Douche was no he-man himself. He reportedly was into ping pong and frisbee. No mention of starring on the football team. Bullied because he himself was being bullied?"
Have to do with someones manliness or the fact that he is a fucking asshole?
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Unless you play football you're a pussy and potentially gay. Duh.
[quote author=yellowCake1 link=topic=27198.msg1726432#msg1726432 date=1285904029]
WTF does this...
"Dharun the Douche was no he-man himself. He reportedly was into ping pong and frisbee. No mention of starring on the football team. Bullied because he himself was being bullied?"
Have to do with someones manliness or the fact that he is a fucking asshole?
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:lol: Everybody knows that frisbee is a gay sport. It's all in the flexible wrists.
I agree Cake. Asses.
"It's the salt water that changes the Rainbow's pretty colors to gray." "And his colors never come back?" "No, once he's been to the sea he's changed forever. The Steelhead can come back home here, stay for the rest of his days, and live among the other Rainbow trout, but he'll always be different because of where he's been." Morsi, Pamela. Garters.
I never played football in high school and I'm quite fond of ping pong and frisbee :/ OMG there's a cock in my mouth.
I just don't like the "he's no He-Man himself" part, implying that because you are a homosexual you're automatically little miss fancy pants.
Very sad and I hope they throw the book at the roomate and his friend for this. What an invasion of privacy and then to put it out there- just sick!
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