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    The Grim Sleeper - Lonnie David Franklin Jr. (10 murders since 1985)

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    Lonnie David Franklin Jr., a 57-year-old black man, was arrested Wednesday, July 7, on suspicion of murder in connection with a string of killings in South Los Angeles dating back nearly three decades. His arrest came after what authorities described as the landmark use of "familial DNA" to track down a suspect.

    Map shows location of Franklin's home [purple marker] and locations where Grim Sleeper's victims were found [in red]. Click for more details.Franklin, a former LAPD mechanic and city trash collector, lived in the heart of the neighborhood where the killings had occurred, but was never detected.



    Three weeks before the arrest, state justice officials made the initial DNA hit. Concerned about privacy violations and getting the results right, they then spent two weeks retesting results and going through the legal checks and balances.

    On June 30, they made the call to Los Angeles Police Department headquarters – letting local officials know there was an urgent need to talk.

    As LAPD officials realized the gravity of the news, Chief Charlie Beck kept the circle tight. No one was to know about the DNA hit until police had a game plan for how to proceed. No information would leak out, not even deputy chiefs were in the loop.

    Within hours of meeting, undercover surveillance officers began watching Franklin. These were round-the-clock teams – 14- to 16-member teams from the Special Investigations Section and Narcotics Surveillance – monitoring every move.
    Franklin spent most of his daylight hours indoors, sources said. He left his house on 81st Street only to run a few mundane errands — to an auto parts store, nothing that would allow detectives to retrieve any DNA samples.

    At night, Franklin became more active. But even those evenings proved fruitless. He would take long, seemingly pointless drives through the city. On some occasions, he drove along Western Avenue, an area known for prostitution. If Franklin picked up a prostitute, police planned to arrest him immediately, fearing that he could potentially strike again.

    But he never did.

    Their big break came Monday when Franklin stopped for pizza near Buena Park, discarding some crust, a fork, napkins and a drinking glass. Detectives moved in quickly, collecting eight items.

    Authorities felt a surge of excitement – and apprehension. Was there enough saliva to extract usable DNA? What if this was another dead end?

    The items were immediately taken to the LAPD's DNA lab, where analysts were put to work. The analysts were not told what case they were working on. But they were given explicit direction to rush the job without cutting any corners.

    Then, authorities could only wait.

    On Tuesday night, the analysts delivered their first news. They had extracted enough DNA to run a test.

    At 7 a.m., the results were in. DNA matched evidence found at the crime scenes.

    At 9:20 a.m., Franklin walked out of his house in the 1700 block of 81st Street in the Manchester Square neighborhood of South Los Angeles to move one of his cars. Two detectives approached him, identified themselves and quickly whisked Franklin away in an awaiting vehicle.

    At 1:47 p.m., Franklin was booked at the downtown Los Angeles jail. He was charged with 10 counts of murder and one count of attempted murder.

    Franklin was a garage attendant at the LAPD's 77th Street Division station in the early 1980s, according to city and police sources. He worked as a garbage collector for the Los Angeles Department of Sanitation during the years that the first eight killings occurred. The string of slayings began with the death of Debra Jackson, a 29-year-old black woman, on Aug. 10, 1985, and ended with the death of Alicia "Monique" Alexander, an 18-year-old black woman, on Sept. 11, 1988.

    Franklin has at least four prior convictions, two for felony possession of stolen property in 1993 and 2003, one for misdemeanor battery in 1997 and one for misdemeanor assault in 1999, according to court records. He was sentenced to a year in jail for the first stolen-property charge and 270 days for the second one.

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    Re: The Grim Sleeper - Lonnie David Franklin Jr. (10 murders since 1985)

    here's bowie's thread on the grim sleeper:

    http://mydeathspace.com/smf/index.php?topic=25979.0


    thanks for posting those pictures.  what's scary is that people who knew him were like, "oh, that guy works on my car.  he's always been cool."  or whatever.  it makes me think that my weird neighbor might be hiding something. 

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    Re: The Grim Sleeper - Lonnie David Franklin Jr. (10 murders since 1985)



    I searched and searched this site but came up empty in regards to this dude. Oh well  :2sad:

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    haha.  it happens to me all the time!

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    Angry Lonnie Williams- Serial Killer- The Grim Sleeper!

    What was so appalling is that this guy was a serial killer for about 20 years or more, but not one time in the 20 -25 years , did the police inform the public that a serial killer was on the loose in that city. During the time and locations that these murders were occurring, I worked as a teacher in a nearby day care center. I saw his orange pinto car in the area, frequently.. and nobody knew. His car was unique because it was a bright Orange pinto, a color that was not common to the pinto cars.Because of the color, one couldn't help but notice it because it was unusual. I thank God that I had my own transportation going to and from work, because he would approach people who were on foot. He was always well dressed, appearing as a friendly harmless man, when he approached his victims.. It is believed that he killed more victims than what he is convicted of killing, as many as 99 women, but many family members hadn't come forward, and many of the pictures that he had of women in his possessions of possible victims, haven't been identified.

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    Lightbulb The Grim Sleeper - Lonnie Franklin

    Grim Sleeper is the nickname for an alleged serial killer in Los Angeles, California, believed to be responsible for at least ten murders, one suspected and one attempted murder in Los Angeles since 1985. The attacker was dubbed the "Grim Sleeper" because he appears to have taken a 14-year hiatus from his crimes, from 1988 to 2002.
    On July 7, 2010, a suspect, Lonnie David Franklin Jr. was arrested. Los Angeles County District Attorney, Steve Cooley, charged him with ten counts of murder, one count of attempted murder, and special circumstance allegations of multiple murders in the case. After police discovered several dead women in alleyways and dumpsters in South Los Angeles, California during the mid-1980s, Los Angeles County Sheriff's Department and Los Angeles Police Department began investigating the murders setting up the "Southside Slayer" task force.The police thought that the murders were committed by one person labelled the "Southside Slayer".. A separate series of killings commenced with the murder of Debra Jackson, with a different MO involving a firearm. Two decades later the perpetrator of these crimes was named Grim Sleeper due to a long period of apparent inactivity between crimes. in May 2007, the murder of Janecia Peters, 25, was linked through DNA analysis to eleven, possibly twelve, unsolved murders in Los Angeles, the first of which occurred in 1985. The "800 Task Force" was then formed, consisting of seven detectives. After a four-month investigation, Christine Pelisek broke the news of the secret 800 Task Force, the linking of Peters' killing to a string of murders going back 23 years, and the fact that Mayor Antonio Villaraigosa and Police Chief William J. Bratton had been silent on the killer's existence. The mayor and chief never issued a press release nor warned the South Los Angeles community of the killer's continuing activities.
    In March 2009, Christine Pelisek of the LA Weekly did an extensive interview with Enietra Washington, the sole survivor of the Grim Sleeper's attacks. She described him as "a black man in his early 30s. He looked neat. Tidy. Kind of geeky. He wore a black polo shirt tucked into khaki trousers." She also described him as a "thin, neat, polite and well-groomed African-American guy." He owned "an orange Ford Pinto with a white racing stripe on the hood." "[I]t looked like a Hot Wheels [toy] car," the survivor recalled. He offered her a ride. After she refused, "He told me, ‘That is what is wrong with you black women. You think you are all that.'" He was persistent. After some banter back and forth, she got into his car. She "was impressed by the car’s interior. The gear-shift handle was memorable, pimped out with a ping-pong-sized marble ball. The inside was all-white, with white diamond-patterned upholstery." When she mentioned a party, he deftly invited himself and she said he was welcome to come. He then said that he needed to stop briefly at his uncle's house:"They wound through residential roads in his sporty car, ending up on a street whose name she did not take note of. The polite stranger parked outside a mustard-colored house partly obscured by hedges, got out, walked up to the house, briefly talked to someone inside, and returned about ten minutes later." They began arguing, when "He suddenly pulled a small handgun out of a pocket on the driver’s side of the Pinto, and shot her in the chest as he drove along the residential streets." The killer apparently documented his attacks with a Polaroid camera: "She blacked out, but was startled awake by the bright flash of the camera. The man had taken her picture and sexually assaulted her. She remembers grabbing at him, and the two struggled. She pleaded to be taken to a hospital. He refused. Despite her half-conscious condition, she’s almost certain he told her he couldn’t take her to a hospital because he didn’t want to get caught."
    In September 2008, officials in Los Angeles announced that they were offering $500,000 reward to help catch the killer, who has murdered at least ten women and a man in two sprees over the past twenty years.
    On February 25, 2009, Chief Bratton held a press conference regarding the case at which police formally gave the killer the "Grim Sleeper" nickname chosen by L.A. Weekly. Bratton then released a call from the 1980s made to a 911 operator in which a man reports having seen a body, which later turned out to be a victim of the Grim Sleeper, getting dumped by the killer, with a detailed description and license plate number of a van connected with the now-closed Cosmopolitan Church.
    In December, 2009 the LAPD re-released the original police sketch of the Grim Sleeper, based on the description given to them in 1988 by his only known survivor Enietra Washington: the sketch shows a black male with pockmarks across both cheeks.
    On November 3, 2011, it was reported by Reuters that the police now also considered Lonnie David Franklin a suspect in six more slayings. The police are investigating two of the six additional female victims tied to the case as potential victims and were killed during a 14-year lapse between an initial spate of "Grim Sleeper" murders that ended in 1988 and several more that began in 2002. Of the remaining four slayings, two are of women whose bodies were discovered in the 1980s and two are victims who were reported missing in 2005 but whose bodies were never found, police said. Detectives said they linked Franklin to the six additional killings after reviewing hundreds of old case files and seeking the public's help in identifying a collection of 180 pictures of women and girls that were found in his possession. Arrest
    On July 7, 2010, District Attorney Steve Cooley identified the suspect as 57-year-old Lonnie David Franklin Jr., a mechanic who worked between 1981 and 1989 for the City of Los Angeles in the sanitation department and briefly for the police department. The arrest of Franklin reportedly was due, at least in part, to the use of familial DNA analysis. Police had been unable to find an exact match between DNA found at the crime scenes associated with the Grim Sleeper and any of the profiles in California's DNA profile database. Thus, police searched the database to try to find stored profiles that demonstrated sufficient similarity to the profile from the crime-scene evidence to allow police to infer a familial relationship between the person who left the DNA at the crime scenes and the similar profile stored in the database.
    Police eventually located similar DNA belonging to Franklin's son, Christopher, who had been convicted of a felony weapons charge. According to Los Angeles District Attorney Steve Cooley, detectives then used a piece of discarded pizza with Franklin's DNA to make the link. One Los Angeles undercover police officer pretended to be a waiter at a restaurant where the suspect ate. He collected dishes, silverware, glasses, and pizza crusts to obtain DNA. The identification was used to arrest Franklin after his DNA was obtained and deemed a match. Saliva found on victims' breasts was used to obtain a DNA match thus linking Franklin to the murders.
    Law enforcement missed an opportunity to catch Franklin because his DNA was never collected. In 2003, he was convicted of a felony and was serving three years of supervised probation. When he was on probation, his DNA was supposed to enter the DNA database. In 2004, voters approved of Proposition 69. The law states that DNA must be collected for all people charged with a crime. It also requires the expansion of the DNA database. Authorities collected and sorted through thousands of DNA samples. On July 2005, Franklin was on unsupervised probation. During that time, Franklin's DNA never entered into the system. Probation officers did not collect DNA samples from people that are on unsupervised probation between the periods of November 2004 and August 2005. During that period, the probation department also did not have the resources to immediately collect samples. Officers did not collect samples until August 2005.
    Franklin has a criminal record dating back to 1989. He was convicted of two charges of stolen property, one charge of misdemeanor assault, and one charge of battery. He served time for one of the charges of stolen property. He is charged with 10 murders and 1 attempted murder. He is held without bail and could face the death penalty if convicted. He is not charged in the death of an 11th suspected victim, an African American man. There is no DNA evidence in that case.
    On December 16, 2010, the Los Angeles Police Department released 180 photos of women found in Franklin's home. we don't even know if they are victims, but we do know this: Lonnie Franklin's reign of terror in the city of Los Angeles, which spanned well over two decades, culminating with almost a dozen murder victims, certainly needs to be investigated further," said Chief Charlie Beck of the LAPD. In all, investigators found over 1,000 photos and several hundred hours of video in his home.
    The images show mainly African American women of a wide age range, from teenagers to middle-aged and older, often nude. Police believe Franklin took many of the pictures, which show both conscious and unconscious individuals, and date back up to 30 years. The photos were released in an effort to identify the women with the help of citizens. The known killings began in 1985 in South Los Angeles, California. The Grim Sleeper took a 14 year hiatus after his last murder in 1988 but began murdering again in 2002. His last confirmed murder was in January 2007. All of his victims were found outdoors, a few miles from downtown Los Angeles.
    All but one of his victims were black females.
    ‡‡ Enietra "Margette" was told to use her middle name as her last name for her protection, but has since come forward as Enietra Margette Washington. Attacked on November 20, 1988, she is the only known survivor.

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    I will out think the fucking pants off of you and you would thank me for helping you out of them.

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    Quote Originally Posted by TupeloHoney View Post
    Oh wow!

    I didn't even realize we had a thread on him. I posted in the documentary thread. Very Very powerful and very sad. Part of the reason he went on for as long as he did was because the authorities didn't give a shit about a "bunch of dead hookers" from a dilapidated community. So infuriating.
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    Quote Originally Posted by strmmrgrrl View Post
    Oh wow!

    I didn't even realize we had a thread on him. I posted in the documentary thread. Very Very powerful and very sad. Part of the reason he went on for as long as he did was because the authorities didn't give a shit about a "bunch of dead BLACK hookers" from a dilapidated community. So infuriating.
    Fixed.
    Agree. The documentary pissed me off. The authorities held a press conference patting themselves on the back for catching him when it was a journalist that made the connections with the deaths. Fucking assholes.
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    Oh well, back to gum.
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    Fixed.
    Agree. The documentary pissed me off. The authorities held a press conference patting themselves on the back for catching him when it was a journalist that made the connections with the deaths. Fucking assholes.
    Yup. Cockstains.

    And I actually had "women and hookers of color" but MDS was being a dick and I had to try again on my phone. The whole thing sickens me.
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    http://www.nbclosangeles.com/news/lo...378143051.html

    Lonnie Franklin Jr. Found Guilty of 'Grim Sleeper' Serial Killings

    Jurors found a 63-year-old man guilty Thursday in the "Grim Sleeper" serial killings of nine women and a teenage girl over two decades in the South Los Angeles area.

    Lonnie Franklin Jr., a former sanitation worker and mechanic for the Los Angeles Police Department, could face the death penalty when he is sentenced May 12. Franklin was found guilty on 10 first-degree murder counts and attempted murder, involving a woman who escaped, after a day of jury deliberations and two days of closing arguments earlier this week in Los Angeles Superior Court.

    The verdicts came following months of testimony about the killings, which spanned from 1985 to 2007. They were dubbed the work of the "Grim Sleeper" after an apparent 14-year gap in the violence after 1988, when one victim survived a gunshot and escaped.

    Much of the killing occurred during the crack cocaine epidemic and the killer preyed mostly on young black women, some of whom worked as prostitutes. Several other serial killers were active at the time in South Los Angeles and community members criticized police for not aggressively investigating the slayings because the victims were black and poor.

    Facing what the prosecution called DNA and gun evidence, the defense proposed an alternative theory: That the killer is an unnamed and unknown relative who envied the accused man's way with women, and for that reason, killed them. Patrick Healy reports for the NBC4 News at 6 on Tuesday, May 3, 2016. (Published Tuesday, May 3, 2016)

    A task force was assigned to revisit the case after investigators failed to solves the crimes in the 1980s. Retired detective Dennis Kilcoyne was the head of the task force.

    "It just dawned on me, it's been nine years since (the final victim) Janecia Peters was murdered," said Kilcoyne. "These families, it's not a club you want to belong to. I think the world of these families."

    Kilcoyne retired three years ago, one year after Franklin's arrest.

    A break came for investigators when DNA of Franklin's son, collected after a felony arrest, had similarities to genetic material left on the bodies of many of the victims.
    Heated Moments in Grim Sleeper Trial Courtroom

    An officer posing as a busboy later retrieved pizza crusts and napkins with Franklin's DNA while he was celebrating at a birthday party. It proved a match with material found on the breasts and clothing of many of the women and on the zip tie of a trash bag that held the curled-up body of the final victim, Janecia Peters. She was found Jan. 1, 2007, by someone who was rifling through a trash bin and noticed her red fingernails through a hole in the bag.

    Jurors began deliberations Wednesday after a surprise from the defense. Defense lawyer Seymour Amster argued for the first time this week in the long-running trial that a "mystery man," an unnamed nephew of defendant Lonnie Franklin Jr., was the real killer.

    "Each and every murder in this case could have been done by a mystery man with a mystery gun with mystery DNA," Amster said.

    Deputy District Attorney Beth Silverman claimed that Amster had concocted an imaginary scenario at the last minute in the face of overwhelming evidence of guilt.

    "The theory of the defense is basically the equivalent of the skies opening up, a space ship descending and murdering all these women," Silverman said as members in the audience snickered.

    Police and prosecutors believe the killer had more victims and may not have paused during the apparent hiatus. Photos of nearly 200 women were discovered in Franklin's house after his arrest and some of the women in those photos have never been found.


    Photos of Peters and Enietra Washington, the only known survivor, were among the trove of snapshots.

    Washington's testimony provided the blueprint of how Franklin preyed on women, Silverman said. He lured her into his car, shot her in the chest, sexually assaulted her and then dumped her from the vehicle, Silverman said.

    The bullet removed from Washington came from the same gun used to shoot or kill seven previous victims, most of whom had Franklin's DNA on them, Silverman said.

    But Amster said that the case collapsed on Washington's testimony because of inconsistencies in her statements to police. Washington described an assailant who was younger than Franklin and pockmarked, Amster said.

    Amster then introduced the new theme of the defense. He said the real killer had access to Franklin's Ford Pinto and had told Washington he was stopping at an "uncle's house" -- believed to be Franklin's -- to get money while she waited in the car.

    "It was not Mr. Franklin," he said. "It was the nephew, this mystery man."

    Silverman said Amster had distorted the evidence and that Washington's descriptions of Franklin were always consistent. Washington identified a photo of Franklin and she pointed him out in court. She said she was 100 percent sure he was the man who shot her and left her for dead.

    Amster said prosecutors had built a circumstantial case using inferior science that found the DNA of unknown men on the victims. But Silverman said Amster had twisted the evidence so the expert testimony favored his case when it was convenient and that ballistics evidence or DNA connected Franklin to each victim.

    "If there is some mystery man out there, how come we didn't pick up his DNA on victim after victim?" she said.

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    Good. Now to hold the Authorities responsible who ignored it so more Black Women were killed then taking credit when he was caught?

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    Totally agree Boston.
    This trial has hardly had any coverage over here (UK) which surprised me. I've had to really hunt to find trial updates.

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    http://www.ibtimes.co.uk/grim-sleepe...police-1558941

    'Grim Sleeper' Lonnie Franklin never took a murder 'nap' and likely killed at least 25 say police

    The California serial killer convicted of murdering 9 women and a teenage girl never really took the hiatus from homicide that earned him the tag 'The Grim Sleeper', according to officials. Lonnie David Franklin Jr. was dubbed the nickname because of a supposed gap of 14 years between a string of murders in the 1980s and a second group of homicides that followed from 2002.


    "I don't think he stopped killing," Los Angeles Detective Daryn Dupree told the Los Angeles Times.

    Investigators believe Franklin, a former sanitation worker, responsible for at least 25 murders, including 11 that occurred during the time frame that police initially believed was a "dormant" period for Franklin Jr.

    The additional murders were connected to Franklin, 63, after he was charged with the other homicides, but prosecutors are worrying that adding on to the charges would only delay his conviction and would not increase the potential penalty against him. The other victims' families backed the decision not to prosecute the other cases, the LA Times also reports.

    Now that Franklin has been convicted of 10 murders ? and an attempted murder? his trial is now set to move into the penalty phase, in which the jury will determine whether to sentence him to the death penalty or a custodial sentence that will mean life in prison.

    Authorities will use the penalty phase to present evidence of at least five additional murders to nudge the jury into a death sentence against California's most prolific serial killer. Families of the victims will also testify about their loss.

    All of Franklin's victims were poor and black and most were young. They were all raped, shot in the chest and discarded in alleyways or dumpsters near the South Los Angeles home of the one-time garbage truck driver. It wasn't until 2009 that investigators were able to use DNA evidence to finally track down Franklin, employing lab technology that was not available when the murders were committed.

    Franklin's final death toll will likely never be known. Detectives found more than 1,000 photos and hundreds of hours of video in Franklin's house featuring women, many nude and in sexually suggestive poses, with several apparently appearing to be unconscious. Many of the women have never been identified or located.

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    Jury Gives Grim Sleeper Serial Killer Death Sentence

    Lonnie David Franklin Jr. preyed upon prostitutes and drug addicts in Los Angeles in a string of murders going back to the 1980's. Prosecutors said he dumped the bodies in trash bins and alleyways. He came to be called the Grim Sleeper.
    Lonnie Franklin Jr. listens to one of his attorneys during a pre-trial hearing last year.
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    But one woman he had shot in the chest, raped, pushed out of his car and left for dead didn't die. Enierta Washington survived. And she testified against Franklin at his trial. Photographs of some Franklin's victims — hundreds of photographs — were found in Franklin's home, police said.

    The evidence was enough to convince the jury to convict Franklin, a former sanitation worker, for 10 murders. Prosecutors said they believed he was responsible for even more deaths, as many as 25 murders.

    Today the jury recommended that Franklin receive the death penalty.

    As far as the reaction in the courtroom, the Los Angeles Times reported:

    The verdict ... drew muted sighs of relief in the downtown courtroom from victims' relatives, who were passing tissues back and forth, letting slight sobs go as each victim's name was read aloud. Franklin, wearing a yellow dress shirt and neck tie that he put on as he entered the courtroom, appeared to remain stoic as he has the entire trial.

    For the death penalty to be imposed, the jury's recommendation must be upheld by a judge at a sentencing hearing in August.

    The Grim Sleeper moniker stemmed from the initial belief by investigators that the killer had gone dormant and stopped killing after the 1980s murders, only to begin killing again in 2002. Prosecutors now believe Franklin didn't stop after all. He just wasn't suspected in the additional cases until more recently.

    Diana Ware's daughter Barbara was among the victims. "I'm just glad it's over and that he'll never get out to hurt anyone else," she told the Los Angeles Times. "Justice was served."

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    The 'Grim Sleeper' is sentenced to death for string of murders

    “This is not a sentence of vengeance,” Superior Court Judge Kathleen Kennedy told Franklin as relatives of his victims looked on, some of them in tears. “It’s justice.”

    Franklin, 63, was convicted earlier this year of killing nine women and a teenage girl from 1985 to 2007. During the penalty phase of his trial, prosecutors connected him to several additional slayings. Detectives believe he may have killed at least 25 women.

    The judge read the names of the 10 victims Franklin was found guilty of killing. In each case, Kennedy told him, “You shall suffer the death penalty.”

    As she spoke, some of the victims’ relatives cried, others sighed. One man repeated: “Amen, amen, amen.”

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    After hearing the verdict I am re-watching the HBO documentary they did on him last summer. I can't believe how brilliant these lazy police officers are...oh wait yes I can. lol

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    A case spanning more than three decades in Los Angeles was finally put to rest last week when the notorious 'Grim Sleeper' serial killer was sentenced to the death penalty.
    However, investigators with the Los Angeles Police Department are still trying to identify 33 women whose photos were found pinned up inside the home of 63-year-old Lonnie Franklin Jr.
    The images were part of a chilling discovery of nearly 1,000 photos of women or teenage girls ? many nude and some who appeared to be unconscious or dead ? hidden in Franklin's house.
    The collection included photographs of several victims, which leads police and prosecutors to believe Franklin left behind many more.


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    The student identification card of Ayellah Marshall, 18, who disappeared in 2006, was found in Franklin's garage along with the Nevada driver's license of Rolenia Morris, 29, who was last seen in 2005.





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    Some of those are SUPER creepy. 129 in the first set looks scared
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    I thought the exact same thing. Poor Brennen Tammons.
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    I know, right? What the fuck, puke? Willing to take in Boston, an Irish dude and like, 17 dogs but not Ron? poor Ron.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Boston Babe 73 View Post
    Some of those are SUPER creepy. 129 in the first set looks scared
    Agreed. The unconscious/possibly dead looking people are unnerving. This man is one sick fuck.
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    I agree, those photos are creepy. I hope people can help to identify who the women are/were.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Bewitchingstorm View Post
    I agree, those photos are creepy. I hope people can help to identify who the women are/were.
    After watching the video again, the girls that have been identified where identified by a former hooker (Pam ?)who helped the documentary guy. Of course the police act as if they were so on it and made the discoveries. While this isn't the best documentary, the filmmaker really does bring to light that many many women were in danger and the police did squat. They didn't even put together it being a serial killer, the LA Weekly did that for them.

    Here is a link to this doc: https://youtu.be/MstyogP10kc


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    I find it so sad that cases like this are essentially treated differently because of the victims' lifestyles. Of course there is also the added barrier of race given the actual/potential victims were African American, which likely allowed him to kill for so long without being caught. Finally, African American males were widely not recognized to be serial killers. I guess this case, as well as others is changing that particular belief/profile.

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    It was all about race and lifestyle. The police never intended to do anything from the get go. They blatantly ignored it until an article was going to be published and then they tried to cover their assess. LAPD is one of the most racist departments in the country. Sickening.
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    Oh well, back to gum.
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    I know, right? What the fuck, puke? Willing to take in Boston, an Irish dude and like, 17 dogs but not Ron? poor Ron.

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