Originally Posted by Fleta
Also,Kyron smiley
Also,
I don't think it's a far stretch tho really. Terri already had some serious issues as it was, I just don't think there is no reason to ever rule her out.
they also had cell phone pings from her phone that day while he was missing and they were all pings from around that island area that they had been searching.
What? Yes, psychologically it's a huge stretch. There's a reason women who kill children are regarded with such shock and horror in our society, but a bitch hatin' on her man is like 'mmm girl I kind of feel you'.
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I don't know, I mean she is reallythe only one who knows and yeah I would feel like a giant asshole if she was found to have not had anything to do with it but I honestly feel she did. I know this is based off my own gut feelings and I know thats not enough of course.
I just cannot conceivabley (sp?) understand at all how she would not be answering questions, meeting with detectives, doing everything in her power to find this child if she had no reason at all to be concerned about prosecution. Instead she keeps a tight lip and says nothing.
Her being so silent is what scares me the most.
What does she have to lose at this point if she is innocent to just speak out? Im sure her lawyers are afraid she will incriminate herself but if you are guilty of something of course you are going to incriminate yourself.
I wonder about lawyers that defend people sometimes. I wonder how they feel emotionally defending a person that they feel is guilty (not saying in this case especially but all around).
I dunno. In cases like this, you're screwed either way. You talk to the cops and your words get twisted and thrown back at you, you don't talk and you must be guilty.
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Yep. Kinda on that note, fuck lie detector tests.
PORTLAND, Ore. - A judge has denied a request by Terri Horman to delay a civil lawsuit brought by Desiree Young that could force Horman to reveal the location of missing 7-year-old Kyron Horman.
http://www.katu.com/news/local/Judge...266-Kyron.html
I don't see how that could get approved. There's no way to force someone to admit something they deny knowing in the first place. Waste of court time.
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This is in the comments.
Why doesn't the media ever report the names of the judges who make these idiot decisions? This will undoubtedly either be appealed to the Court of Appeals or to the Federal system, where the decision will be overturned. There is really no way that Terri Horman can be forced to answer questions in a civil trial, which might lead to her to incriminate herself. Therefore ,without the ability to examine her on the stand, I don't see any way that Desiree's attorney can prevail. On one hand, if they had agreed to abate the case, there's a good chance that Terri might be charged and convicted in criminal court, which would then preclude her from being able to argue in a civil trial that she wasn't involved. On the other hand, IF the civil trial IS actually allowed to proceed, and Terri IS forced to testify under threat of contempt of court, then her answers would probably NOT be admissible in a criminal case. As I like to point out, remember that about 50% of all the lawyers practicing - graduated in the BOTTOM HALF of their class. My guess is that Mr. Rosenthal is one of those.
Kyron Horman's Stepmother Called 'Prime Suspect' by Judge
The stepmother of missing Oregon boy Kyron Horman was called a "prime suspect" in his disappearance by a judge who ruled a $10 million civil suit against the woman could proceed.
The opinion was issued in the civil case filed by Desiree Young, Kyron's birth mother, against his stepmother Terri Horman.
Terri Horman will not be required to answer any questions in the civil suit, since there is an ongoing criminal investigation into the boy's disappearance.
"The defendant is a prime suspect in the investigation," Circuit Court Judge Henry Kantor wrote, explaining his decision to allow the case to proceed but allowing Terri Horman to avoid a deposition that could potentially incriminate her in the criminal investigation.
But the judge said he believed the civil case could not be delayed.
"Witnesses and evidence may disappear. Memories may fade. The opportunity to find Kyron, alive or dead, lessens," Kantor wrote.
Young has said she believes Horman knows what happened to her son, who was 7 at the time of his disappearance in 2010.
"I believe that Terri Horman knows where Kyron is. I believe that Terri Horman is responsible for where my son is," Young said in June after she filed the civil suit.
Police have also have indicated there are discrepancies in Terri Horman's account of what happened on the morning of June 4, 2010, when Kyron disappeared, however she has not been named a formal suspect.
Horman admitted to hating her 7-year-old stepson, police said.
Kyron disappeared after his stepmother attended a school science fair where her stepson had displayed a project on red tree frogs.
She said she last saw Kyron walking down a hallway toward his classroom.
When Kyron didn't come home on the bus that Friday afternoon, his parents called the school, which in turn called 911, launching one of the largest search operations ever in Oregon.
Police have since spent more than 28,000 man hours searching for Kyron.
The missing boy's father, Kaine Horman, has since filed for divorce from Horman after being told she had allegedly tried to hire someone to kill him.
Terri Horman has released only brief statements through her attorney that she did not have anything to do with Kyron's disappearance.
http://abcnews.go.com/US/kyron-horma...8#.UDWdBmzQW-Y
This is huge news that they finally called her a suspect. I don't yet understand how they call her a suspect now just because of a civil suit. I mean, I believe in my gut that she had something to do with it but a civil suit forcing a judge to finally name her?
I don't understand. If she loses this civil suit, wouldnt it basically be her incriminating herself?
aw, i just was looking at my coupons, and the top had Kyron's picture and the age progression - i got sad about it all over again, i feel bad for his parents, here one second and gone the next.
http://search.mywebsearch.com/mywebs...D&ord=0&ct=AR&
PORTLAND, OR (KPTV) -
The Multnomah County Sheriff’s Office confirmed to Fox 12 they have new leads in the disappearance of Kyron Horman.
The revelation comes at the same time it was ruled a lawsuit filed by Kyron Horman’s mother against Terri Horman will be put on hold until Aug. 1, 2013.
Desiree Young’s attorney filed a motion to abate the civil proceedings Monday, and on Wednesday Judge Henry Kantor approved it, putting the case on hold for nine months.
Entire article at website: http://www.kptv.com/story/20200850/d...on-horman-case
Full article link:
http://www.kptv.com/story/20200850/d...on-horman-case
I hope this turns into a lead that leads to Kyron.
Last edited by Crazy Lady; 01-25-2013 at 08:31 AM.
"When it comes time to die, let us not discover that we have never lived." ~ Henry David Thoreau
"Our greatest glory is not in never falling but in rising every time we fall. ~ Confucius
I wonder if Terry is gonna talk? I agree they need to seal those records, if they don't do it they are risking a loss in a criminal trial.
I admit tho that i wanna know what revelations they have come up on.
Ahahaaa I was in the gym yesterday and they still have Kyron's Wall of Hope up and flyers posted everywhere. There was this short dude with glasses wandering about and I sure as fuck thought it.
I want to know too. I've been searching and haven't found anything. Terri admitted to many people she hated Kyron. That poor child had to live with her rages. I read a Statement Analysis of Desiree's last statement to the media, I'm convinced when she finds out where Kyron is and can lay him to rest, she plans on joining him. It's very sad.
"When it comes time to die, let us not discover that we have never lived." ~ Henry David Thoreau
"Our greatest glory is not in never falling but in rising every time we fall. ~ Confucius
Do you have a link? I hadnt read that. It's posted earlier in this thread but my sister and all her high school friends know Terri. Terri was here in roseburg but I think she left. I took pics of her parents house somewhere in this thread.
Anyways, some of the emails about her disdain for Kyron were sent to my sister and her friends and then she also sent a mass email to the same group telling them not to listen to anything in the media.
http://seamusoriley.blogspot.com/201...kyron.html?m=1
This isn't the exact one I was talking about, but it mentions a concern for her. I will find that one and post it. In one of the interviews quoted, Desiree mentions the emails Terri sent to her friends. I read the thread, I thought this really is a small world. I think Terri enjoys torturing Desiree and Kaine.
I don't believe everything in Statement Analysis, but I do believe a lot is true. I find it facinating. Peter and Heather Hyatt have a great blog. They cover many cases. I'm going to post one on Jodi Arias. He's done a lot on her too.
Terri is delusional but in some other way she is pretty collected. She has managed to stay absolutely silent about this and I don't get how she can stand by quietly if you have no other feelings but love for him.
I know we can go back and forth on whether or not Terri did this because she hasnt been tried in court but in my own opinion, if I had nothing to do with a disappearance I wouldnt be so quiet and then lawyer up. I would be forthcoming because I had nothing to hide.
Her silence is the only thing saving her actually because there is just no evidence, none that we know of for sure anyways besides her obvious irritability with Kyron.
Im not sure on how to interpret what Desiree is saying about in loose terms her own death because for a long time there, they seemed so in denial with buying him school supplies, clothes, etc and I kinda think it has slowly set in that he is most likely dead. I think the confirmation, the actual knowing her sons remains were found will knock the wind out of her but then I think she will want to see Terri suffer for it by way of punishment/prison.
I think she will need that closure.
Yeah, she definitely only has circumstantial evidence against her. LE does know by her cell pings, she lied about where she was that day. She spend time on the island, then conveniently didn't mention it. Then there is the whole DeDe refusing to answer questions by pleading the 5th. I'm very interested to see where the request to compel her to speak goes. She can't use the 5th to cover up knowledge of someone (other than spouse) committing a crime. She refused to answer any questions about Terri after saying she knows her.
Desiree feels tremendous guilt. I can understand why, Kyron was miserable with Terri. Terri blamed everything wrong in her life on Kyron. I know that post only touches on it, I will find the one I was talking about and link it. Peter Hyatt has done so many on this case, it will take me some time to locate it. I agree, I think if Terri ever gets arrested, Desiree will see her punished first. I hope for her sake, she finds something to hold on to.
http://seamusoriley.blogspot.com/201...-body.html?m=1
I thought you might find this on interesting too. I'm still on the hunt.
I had never heard the info about Terri thinking it was her attorney on the phone and saying she needed to move the body. Wouldnt we have heard of that? And if it was real, would an attorney keep that from LE?
Or would they keep it quiet because of their clilent? If they didnt reveal that kind of info, thats horrid.
I know this isn't a popular opinion, but I don't think Terri has anything to do with Kyron's disappearance. It's been a long time since I read up on this case, but everything in the months following his disappearance regarding Terri was circumstantial at the very best. She didn't treat Kyron as she did her own, I don't argue that. I think she had some jealousy issues regarding Kyron, but hate him? I disagree. DeDe cooperated fully from what I remember, but she is also Terri's friend and if I had a friend that I felt was innocent I would protect them too. As long as it was legal, that is, and to my knowledge DeDe has done nothing illegal. Desiree is feeling guilty and she damn well should, IMO. She didn't seem to have much time for Kyron and she KNEW his disdain for Terri. She has a husband, that's a cop no less, so if she knew these things were going on in the Hormom household why didn't she rescue Kyron? Her bullshit excuse that Kaine would fight her and she would lose is a bullshit reason in my opinion. SHE is the one who gave Kyron up in the first place. All that said, my heart does break for her as a mother. You can see it on her face that she is genuinely hurting and I agree with CL that once she finds Kyron's remains she will join him and that is so incredibly sad. I just wish everyone involved had the answers so that they could all find what little bit of peace that has eluded them since he's been missing.
I think desiree had some really bad medical issues and was sick and thats why she had kyron with kaine. I think terri totally had something to do with this. Her silence is very suspect to me.
Im just thinking as a mom here like if my child or step child goes missing, do i stay quiet and not explain things that are asked? no. I know she failed a polygraph but those i know are not totlaly right on, in fact they scare me.
I think desiree is going to feel guilt for the rest of her life over this and feeling like she should have done more.
My opinions are going off what we know in he news but also from what my sister and close friends were told by terri. So many things just dont add up here.
Well her whole illness excuse always seemed to me to be a cop out reason for giving Kyron to Kain. Primarily because she never explained her illness. Only that it was something to with her kidneys or something? Seriously, what's the big fucking secret if it was a true story? That's what I don't get. Terri's silence is not odd behavior to me. If I were ever charged with a crime I'm not saying a damn word. When my innocence is proven then I will shout it from the roof tops, but until then mum is the word. That's defense 101. Maybe I feel this strongly because my bro is a lawyer, I don't know, but I have also watched a lot of crime shows. NEVER TALK. I just think Terri is doing what she is instructed by her lawyer. I cant fault her for that.
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