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    Town to immigrants: you can't kill women

    Immigrants wishing to live in the small Canadian town of Herouxville, Quebec, must not stone women to death in public, burn them alive or throw acid on them, according to an extraordinary set of rules released by the local council.

    The declaration, published on the town's Web site, has deepened tensions in the predominantly French-speaking province over how tolerant Quebecers should be toward the customs and traditions of immigrants.

    "We wish to inform these new arrivals that the way of life which they abandoned when they left their countries of origin cannot be recreated here," said the declaration, which makes clear women are allowed to drive, vote, dance, write checks, dress how they want, work and own property.

    "Therefore we consider it completely outside these norms to ... kill women by stoning them in public, burning them alive, burning them with acid, circumcising them etc."

    No one on the town council was available for comment on Tuesday. Herouxville, which has 1,300 inhabitants, is about 160 km (100 miles) northeast of Montreal.

    Andre Drouin, the councilor who devised the declaration, told the National Post newspaper that the town was not racist.

    "We invite people from all nationalities, all languages, all sexual orientations, whatever, to come live with us, but we want them to know ahead of time how we live," he said.

    The declaration is part of a wider debate over "reasonable accommodation," or how far Quebecers should be prepared to change their customs so as not to offend immigrants. Figures from the 2001 census show that around 10 percent of Quebec's 7.5 million population were born outside Canada.

    Earlier this month the Journal de Montreal newspaper published a poll of Quebecers showing that 59 percent admitted to harboring some kind of racist feelings.

    The Herouxville regulations say girls and boys can exercise together and people should only be allowed to cover their faces at Halloween. Children must not take weapons to school, it adds, although the Supreme Court of Canada has already ruled that Sikh boys have the right to carry ceremonial daggers.

    Salam Elmenyawi, president of the Muslim Council of Montreal, said the declaration had "set the clock back for decades" as far as race relations were concerned.

    "I was shocked and insulted to see these kinds of false stereotypes and ignorance about Islam and our religion ... in a public document written by people in authority who discriminate openly," he told Reuters.

    Last year a Montreal gym agreed to install frosted windows after a nearby Hasidic synagogue said it was offended by the sight of adults exercising.

    Newspapers say a Montreal community center banned men from prenatal classes to respect Hindu and Sikh traditions and an internal police magazine suggested women police officers allow their male colleagues to interview Hasidic Jews.

    Montreal's police force is investigating one of its officers after he posted an anti-immigrant song called "That's Enough Already" on the Internet.

    "We want to accept ethnics, but not at any price ... if you're not happy with your fate, there's a place called the airport," the officer sings.

    An accompanying video shows clips of Muslims and Hasidic Jews and at one point shows shots of a partially nude woman to mock those who wear veils.

    The Herouxville declaration is available, in English and French, at the "avis public" section of the town's Web site, http://municipalite.herouxville.qc.ca.

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    there's a place called the airport, funny, I've said something like that before  :lol:

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    Re: Town to immigrants: you can't kill women

    Does this mean I can't skin live goats for prosperity every third waning moon of the ninth quarter anymore?

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    Re: Town to immigrants: you can't kill women

    [quote author=PengPeng link=topic=4455.msg167847#msg167847 date=1170263471]
    Does this mean I can't skin live goats for prosperity every third waning moon of the ninth quarter anymore?
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    Not in Quebec, no.

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    Re: Town to immigrants: you can't kill women

    i mean, i understand that they ARE racists, but i wouldn't say it's racist to forbid stoning women in public (can they stone them in private...?)
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    [quote author=saidgrace link=topic=4455.msg167941#msg167941 date=1170270791]
    i mean, i understand that they ARE racists, but i wouldn't say it's racist to forbid stoning women in public (can they stone them in private...?)
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    That depends how you word it&nbsp; :lol:

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    Re: Town to immigrants: you can't kill women

    [quote author=saidgrace link=topic=4455.msg167941#msg167941 date=1170270791]
    i mean, i understand that they ARE racists, but i wouldn't say it's racist to forbid stoning women in public (can they stone them in private...?)
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    They can't legally enforced much that goes on behind closed doors. Stoning in private would just be murder. They're basically saying you can't murder people legally in accordance to your beliefs.

    What a buzzkill.

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    Re: Town to immigrants: you can't kill women

    Aw Damn it!&nbsp; :2angry: well there go my vacation plans&nbsp; :lol:
    Are you really sure you just saw what you think you just saw?&nbsp; Life is a random hallucination. Dare to Disbelieve.

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    Re: Town to immigrants: you can't kill women

    [quote author=EatTheChildren link=topic=4455.msg170394#msg170394 date=1170407740]
    Aw Damn it!&nbsp; :2angry: well there go my vacation plans&nbsp; :lol:
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    :lol:

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    Re: Town to immigrants: you can't kill women

    &quot;drive, vote, dance, write checks, dress how they want, work and own property.&quot;

    Its all gonna come undone now that the women are allowed to dance.

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    Re: Town to immigrants: you can't kill women

    [quote author=Jackie8783 link=topic=4455.msg170947#msg170947 date=1170441084]
    &quot;drive, vote, dance, write checks, dress how they want, work and own property.&quot;

    Its all gonna come undone now that the women are allowed to dance.

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    No kidding, that's just inviting the devil into your pants!

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    Re: Town to immigrants: you can't kill women

    aw, they are just way off. and quebec is such a beautiful place, too.

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    Re: Town to immigrants: you can't kill women

    [quote author=Nicole link=topic=4455.msg171134#msg171134 date=1170448277]
    aw, they are just way off. and quebec is such a beautiful place, too.

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    I'm sure Quebec would be a lovely place, if it weren't full of frogs.

    Seriously, it's always a great sign when people refer to other people as &quot;ethnics&quot;.

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    Re: Town to immigrants: you can't kill women

    [quote author=misanthrope link=topic=4455.msg171985#msg171985 date=1170518677]
    I'm sure Quebec would be a lovely place, if it weren't full of frogs.

    Seriously, it's always a great sign when people refer to other people as &quot;ethnics&quot;.
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    :lol: :lol: you make me laugh.
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    Re: Town to immigrants: you can't kill women

    someone likes Swift's &quot;A Modest Proposal&quot;

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    Re: Town to immigrants: you can't kill women

    [quote author=Nicole link=topic=4455.msg171990#msg171990 date=1170519322]
    someone likes Swift's &quot;A Modest Proposal&quot;
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    Maybe, Maybe satire is more interesting and I just like the way it sounds.&nbsp;
    Are you really sure you just saw what you think you just saw?&nbsp; Life is a random hallucination. Dare to Disbelieve.

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