Charles Ng

[bowieluva]

Charles Ng is like, literally the scariest serial killer I can think of in modern times.
http://crime.about.com/od/murder/p/charlesng.htm
He and his partner, Leonard Lake, who had the dignity to suicide, are suspected of killing up to and maybe more than thirty people. They'd kill whole families, break into homes and kill everyone inside and make it their home base. Ng had torture chambers and recorded his crimes.

[neenerneener]

just the sight of that creepy little fucker fills me with *do not want*.  and the way he delayed his trial for so long...ugh.  seriously a sick bastard.  i hope he dies.

[bowieluva]

I love that Canada was like 'weeeellll you're totally going to kill this guy so we don't want to send him back' and then we were like 'well, we just want to talk to him about a stolen car' and they were like 'oh ok we accept that at face value, get him the fuck out of here.'

[neenerneener]

[quote author=bowieluva link=topic=23401.msg1464916#msg1464916 date=1259892834]
I love that Canada was like 'weeeellll you're totally going to kill this guy so we don't want to send him back' and then we were like 'well, we just want to talk to him about a stolen car' and they were like 'oh ok we accept that at face value, get him the fuck out of here.'


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:lol:

yeah, i cant blame them for wanting to get rid of him.  i saw some of his torture vids, they made me sick.  those poor people were begging for their lives, and their childrens lives, and ng and lake just laughed in their faces. 

[Monter]

NG and Lake remind me a lot of Bittaker and Norris - another Cali sadistic murder team, theyd kidnap teenage girls and torture them and record it in the back of their custom van , "murder Mack"  

Its fascinating the murderers who find each other and take their crimes to a whole other level by feeding off their partner.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Lawrence_Bittaker_and_Roy_Norris

John Douglas has some awesome forensic psych books detailing these dirtbags and the specifics of the types of killers, motivators etc.

[deliberate_misuse]

I can't describe how sick Ng and Lake make me.  They were depraved sociopaths of the highest degree.  Their lack of emotion and empathy was inhuman.  I have nightmares about them.

[Monter]

[quote author=deliberate_misuse link=topic=23401.msg1465134#msg1465134 date=1259899303]
I can't describe how sick Ng and Lake make me.  They were depraved sociopaths of the highest degree.  Their lack of emotion and empathy was inhuman.  I have nightmares about them.
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It really says something when their acts make some of the other maybe more infamous murderers' seem less crazy.

[teifl]

These two scare the hell out of me still.

[Gemini]

[quote author=bowieluva link=topic=23401.msg1464902#msg1464902 date=1259892632]
Charles Ng is like, literally the scariest serial killer I can think of in modern times.
http://crime.about.com/od/murder/p/charlesng.htm
He and his partner, Leonard Lake, who had the dignity to suicide, are suspected of killing up to and maybe more than thirty people. They'd kill whole families, break into homes and kill everyone inside and make it their home base. Ng had torture chambers and recorded his crimes.
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Awww Bowie...How can you call him scary! When he just says he feels sad and lonely...like a dolphin caught in a tuna net!

Seriously. Oh yes he does:

CHARLES NG My name is Charles Chi-tat Ng.  I am an Asian male of average build. I was born December 24th 1960 and raised in Hong Kong in a traditional Chinese family, but have spent the majority of my adult life in North America. I graduated from high school in England. I have never been married and have no children. I have travelled to many countries and have been exposed to many cultures.  My remaining immediate family members reside outside the United States and I am currently the only Chinese prisoner on California's Death Row at San Quentin Prison. My case, from inception to verdict, has been both a travesty and outrage of mistreatments and miscarriage of justice. Because of these and other reasons, I constantly feel misplaced, sad and lonely - like a dolphin caught inside a tuna net.  I am writing because I am interested in seeking sincere friendship through correspondence and visiting with someone I can build an enduring and meaningful companionship with - someone with whom I can share good times, bad times, life, thoughts, feelings, experiences and passions from this dark hole of humanity. Out in the free world I enjoyed such things as reading, learning new subjects, wilderness exploring, martial arts, movies, travelling, cooking, outdoor adventures such as mountain hiking / climbing, scuba diving and serving as an infantryman in the United States Marine Corps.  Throughout my life I have refrained from unhealthy habits such as smoking, drinking and recreational drug uses.  During my incarceration I enjoy such things as origami, spirituality, self-study, exercises, writing, reading and drawing.  I am a self-taught artist who loves animals and strive to express artistically with an improvisational approach in whatever medium available to me.  I always feel a special kinship in my struggle for survival as those faced by the endangered animals I depict in my artwork. To me, art is a universal emotional expression of all cultures, and wildlife art a spiritual reference for all things wild and free; and a way for me to immortalize my love and intimacy to those who are dear and special to me. Personality wise, I am quiet, shy, open-minded, down to Earth, loyal, thoughtful, dependent and sentimental, but can be wayward, overly trusting and pessimistic at times.  Life is fleeting and my fate is at best uncertain.  Therefore I desire to hear from new friends and reconnect with people who had touched my life and heart in the past, but with whom I have lost touch due to circumstances beyond my control.  I would be most grateful to be able to share the precious time I have left in this world with honest, open-minded and good-hearted people who understand and empathize with injustices, sufferings, my struggle, my visions and yearnings, and who may be able and willing to lend helping hands along the way.

http://ccadp.org/CA3.htm

I came across this pen pal ad of his when I was reading about his case sometime ago. I couldn't believe the ad in light of what I had read about him.

I mean there is being economical with the truth and then there is taking it to a whole fucking new level!  :2angry:

I am so glad he managed to avoid such thrill seeking, unhealthy habits such as smoking, drinking and drugs and substituted them with such wholesome activities as rape, torture and serial killing!  :-o

Crazy, evil bastard.

Now don't all rush to write to him ladies....With him being such a sensitive soul and all.... :roll:

[partyguy]

I just read his trial cost tax payers a record 14 million dollars. It's amazing how stupid and jacked our justice system is that they could find a way to waste that much money just to convict an indigent serial rapist/murderer. Oh, and the same taxpayers have also been paying to feed, shelter, and cloth him for the last dozen years as well.

[deliberate_misuse]

[quote author=Gemini link=topic=23401.msg1470332#msg1470332 date=1260396283]
Awww Bowie...How can you call him scary! When he just says he feels sad and lonely...like a dolphin caught in a tuna net!

Seriously. Oh yes he does:

http://ccadp.org/CA3.htm

I came across this pen pal ad of his when I was reading about his case sometime ago. I couldn't believe the ad in light of what I had read about him.

I mean there is being economical with the truth and then there is taking it to a whole fucking new level!  :2angry:

I am so glad he managed to avoid such thrill seeking, unhealthy habits such as smoking, drinking and drugs and substituted them with such wholesome activities as rape, torture and serial killing!    :-o

Crazy, evil bastard.

Now don't all rush to write to him ladies....With him being such a sensitive soul and all.... :roll:

[/quote]

This makes my blood boil.  Charles Ng is the sickest of the sick.  I would write to him but it would probably give me a stroke.

[bowieluva]

[quote author=deliberate_misuse link=topic=23401.msg1470378#msg1470378 date=1260399099]
This makes my blood boil.  Charles Ng is the sickest of the sick.  I would write to him but it would probably give me a stroke.
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I would never write to that guy on the tiny chance he ever escapes and finds me. He's fucking evil.

[deeply shaded]

I would be most grateful to be able to share the precious time I have left in this world with honest, open-minded and good-hearted people who understand and empathize with injustices, sufferings, my struggle, my visions and yearnings, and who may be able and willing to lend helping hands along the way.

What injustices has he had? And what are his visions and yearnings he wants help with?  

[bowieluva]

[quote author=deeply shaded link=topic=23401.msg1470496#msg1470496 date=1260406408]
I would be most grateful to be able to share the precious time I have left in this world with honest, open-minded and good-hearted people who understand and empathize with injustices, sufferings, my struggle, my visions and yearnings, and who may be able and willing to lend helping hands along the way.

What injustices has he had? And what are his visions and yearnings he wants help with?  
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He wanted to kill more people and the state wouldn't let him! Meanies.

[neenerneener]

[quote author=deliberate_misuse link=topic=23401.msg1470378#msg1470378 date=1260399099]
This makes my blood boil.  Charles Ng is the sickest of the sick.  I would write to him but it would probably give me a stroke.
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i bet he loves getting hate mail.  he's the kind of guy who gets off on being able to affect people that way.  :|

[sarabei]

These two were really creepy, didn't they follow a book or something, with a butterfly in the name    been awhile since I read about this case too.  Really made my skin crawl, all those poor people begging for their and their loved ones lives. 

[bowieluva]

[quote author=sarabei link=topic=23401.msg1471391#msg1471391 date=1260477174]
These two were really creepy, didn't they follow a book or something, with a butterfly in the name     been awhile since I read about this case too.  Really made my skin crawl, all those poor people begging for their and their loved ones lives.   
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What's sick is they would make the women beg and bargain for the lives of their children after they'd already murdered them.

[Gemini]

[quote author=bowieluva link=topic=23401.msg1471783#msg1471783 date=1260488439]
What's sick is they would make the women beg and bargain for the lives of their children after they'd already murdered them.
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I read his case about a year ago and was shocked at just how sick he was. I couldn't believe it when I came across his pen pal request. I seriously had to look twice and google him just to double check it was the same guy I thought it was. I was amazed that the site would accept such a flagrant piece of billy bull shite.

I just can't get my head round that clap trap he is peddling there, I am seriously tempted to write to him and ask him why, after all the horrors he has committed, he can put an ad out like that.

I can't believe that people fall for that shite.

[deeply shaded]

[quote author=Gemini link=topic=23401.msg1471810#msg1471810 date=1260489363]




I read his case about a year ago and was shocked at just how sick he was. I couldn't believe it when I came across his pen pal request. I seriously had to look twice and google him just to double check it was the same guy I thought it was. I was amazed that the site would accept such a flagrant piece of billy bull shite.

I just can't get my head round that clap trap he is peddling there, I am seriously tempted to write to him and ask him why, after all the horrors he has committed, he can put an ad out like that.

I can't believe that people fall for that shite.


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The really sad part is there are probably a ton of women who know exactly what he did and are still falling all over themselves to write to him.

[bowieluva]

[quote author=deeply shaded link=topic=23401.msg1471831#msg1471831 date=1260490014]
The really sad part is there are probably a ton of women who know exactly what he did and are still falling all over themselves to write to him.
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Because they'll be the ones to save him.

[MsWeatherwax]

I'm fascinated by serial killers, but I've never been able to read fully about what these two did because they horrified me too much.  Even the thought of he "....and baby fried" cartoon makes my blood go cold.  That was pretty much where I stopped.   

But as long as the endangered animals are OK, I guess...he can't be all bad.  :roll:

[Sgt. Snake]

Charles Ng is and was scary.
I served in the United States Marine Corps with Charles in the early 1980's. I was an infantryman Sgt. and knew him
all too well.
We studied Martial Arts, worked out and were deployed together when Iran held American hostages.
He is definitley where he belongs and he is a sick individual but he was one of the best Marines I ever helped train.
Who knows what went wrong?
Charles still emails me from time to time through his legal connections but I have nothing to say to him at this or any other point in my life.
You are right to be afraid of this individual.

[Nancy Drew]

Ooh. Can you explain how he was scary back then?

[neenerneener]

did not expect to see a post from someone who actually knew him. sgt snake, do you have any pics from when you were int he marines together?