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    Suspicious death, Majura (ACT) - Andrew Carville

    No age, gender or name yet & it's been hours



    http://www.police.act.gov.au/media-c...ura?source=rss


    Police locate body in Majura
    Release Date: Thursday, November 19 2015, 07:30 PM

    ACT Policing is currently investigating the circumstances surrounding an unidentified body found in Majura this afternoon.

    Police are currently at the scene and in the process of determining the cause of death and the identity of the body. Police are treating the death as suspicious.

    There is no further information available at this time. Police will provide an update as soon as more information comes to hand.
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    Police are urging anyone who may have any information that could assist police to contact Crime Stoppers on 1800 333 000, or via act.crimestoppers.com.au.* Information can be provided anonymously.

    We remind people they should not report crime information via our Facebook and Twitter pages.

    http://www.abc.net.au/news/2015-11-1...icious/6956552

    Police locate body in suspicious circumstances at Majura
    Updated about 2 hours ago


    PHOTO: Police would not say where in the Majura area the body was found. (Supplied)
    MAP: Canberra 2600
    A body has been found in Majura, and the death is being treated as suspicious, ACT Police say.

    They said the body was yet to be identified, and they did not yet know the cause of death.

    Police are at the scene collecting evidence, but will not confirm where in the area the body was found.

    They have urged anyone with information to contact Crime Stoppers.

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    Couple of people in article comments mentioned that this guy is still missing




    http://www.canberratimes.com.au/act-...10-gkvaut.html



    AFP link


    http://www.police.act.gov.au/media-c...or_missing_man



    Locals are saying the forensics team is working an area near army land & were on Sutton Rd not far from the place a wrecked car was found a few days ago. At the time te car was found an alert was released expressing police concern for the missing occupant/s - discussion here:


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    I hope they can figure out how the person is and/or confirm whether or not it is the guy who is missing.

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    NOT CONFIRMED - family have spoken to media before DNA confirmation



    http://www.canberratimes.com.au/act-...20-gl3uij.html





    The mother of missing Evatt man Andrew*Carville*says her family is in shock after police told her they believe a body found in Canberra's northeast was her son.*

    Police have yet to formally identify the*body*but said*several people are*helping with their enquiries into the gruesome discovery.*

    Officers said they found the body at Majura on Thursday afternoon and were treating the death as suspicious.*


    Police believe the body found in Majura on Thursday is that of Andrew Carville. Photo: Supplied


    Audrey*Carville*said police had told her they believed the body was her sonand they would carry out an autopsy today.


    Family members were told they might need to provide DNA material to help with the identification.*

    "It's shocking. We're just shocked," she said.*

    "We just can't bring our minds around it."

    "I keep saying I hope it isn't him but they're pretty certain it is.

    "It's affected my youngest son really badly because they used to live together."

    Mrs*Carville*said police "haven't said a thing" and they wanted to make sure it was her son.*

    "They said whoever's done this, we will catch."

    The body was removed from bushland overnight and forensic experts were still working to*confirm the cause of death.

    Police have refused to*confirm the gender of the body and have so far remained tight-lipped on the*investigation.

    No arrests have been made.*

    It is understood the body was found in bush on defence land in the area.

    Earlier this week,*police asked for the public's help to find the driver of*a ute found crashed in nearby*Molonglo*Gorge.

    The unregistered Toyota Landcruiser was recovered*with*damage to the front from scrub on the outskirts of Queanbeyan on Saturday. Police*believe*it is linked to the discovery of the body.


    Police urged anyone with information that could assist police to contact Crime Stoppers on 1800 333 000, or via*act.crimestoppers.com.au.**
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    Friends have remembered north Canberra man Andrew Carville​ as a gentle soul and humble man who "wouldn't hurt a fly".
    Police on Tuesday confirmed human remains found in grassland at Majura last week were that of Mr Carville, 52, who was reported missing in early November.


    Read more: http://www.canberratimes.com.au/act-...#ixzz3uMIFM5nK
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    RIP Andrew.

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    :( Poor fellow. Sick of the Aussie cases! RIP mate.

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    http://www.abc.net.au/news/2018-06-1...imself/9861034

    Andrew Carville's accused murderer Milan Urlich claims he was defending himself
    By Elizabeth Byrne
    Updated 16 minutes ago

    A composite photo of Milan and Marc Urlich.

    PHOTO: Milan Urlich (l) said he did not tell his brother (r) about Andrew Carville's death. (Facebook/ABC News)

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    A man on trial for murder has told the ACT Supreme Court he feared for his life on the night of the killing because the victim, Andrew Carville, had come at him with a knife.

    Milan Urlich admitted he was responsible for Mr Carville's death, but denied it was murder.

    Mr Urlich, in his first explanation for how Mr Carville died, said he was helping a friend move out of Mr Carville's house, when he turned to see him a few feet away "coming towards me with a knife".

    Mr Urlich told the court he grabbed Mr Carville's hand.

    Andrew Carville

    PHOTO: Andrew Carville was last seen at his home on November 4, 2015. (Supplied: ACT Policing)
    "I was fearing for my life," he said.

    "I was scared, I just did what was natural ? I spun him around and put him in a chokehold."

    Mr Urlich told the court Mr Carville fell unconscious and dropped the knife.

    He said he realised quickly that Mr Carville was dead when he did not respond after being slapped.

    Mr Urlich admitted he wrapped Mr Carville in a carpet, put him on his ute tray and drove out to land at Sutton.

    He also admitted he returned weeks later and hid the body in a dry creek bed.

    A 1986 cream coloured Toyota Land Cruiser wedged in bushes.

    PHOTO: Andrew Carville's body was wrapped in a carpet and put on the tray of Milan Urlich's ute. (Supplied: ACT Policing)
    Prosecutor Shane Drumgold challenged his account, suggesting Mr Urlich's actions were to hide the alleged murder by disposing of the body "in the hope he'd just be a missing person".

    But Mr Urlich denied any plan.

    "I didn't know what I was doing. I was freaking out," he said.

    His brother, Marc Urlich, has been charged with helping his brother conceal the alleged murder by going with him to hide Mr Carville's body and dispose of his car, but Milan told the court he did not tell his brother anything about the situation.

    Marc Urlich has also rejected any involvement or knowledge of the incident.

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    Milan Urlich acquitted of Andrew Carville's murder.

    Milan Urlich has been acquitted of murdering Andrew Carville.

    However, an ACT Supreme Court jury has found him guilty of manslaughter over Mr Carville's November 2015 death.

    Andrew Carville was last seen alive on November 4.

    Marc Urlich ? Milan Urlich's brother - was found not guilty of being an accessory after the fact.

    The jury deliberated for much of Thursday and Friday before handing down its decision before Justice John Burns about 2pm.

    The brothers exchanged glances, while family and supporters in the public gallery let out sighs of relief, as the jury returned its decision.

    Before returning their verdict, Justice Burns reminded jurors they had the option to find Milan Urlich guilty of an alternative count of manslaughter.

    Milan Urlich, 29, has been accused of murdering Andrew Carville.

    Photo:*Supplied

    Mr Carville's badly decomposed body was discovered by police on November 19, 2015.

    An autopsy could not determine the cause of death, but the court heard that Mr Carville had suffered rib fractures and injuries to his neck consistent with strangulation.

    A knife was found tucked into Mr Carville's pants.

    Milan Urlich admitted he had killed the 52-year-old in Mr Carville's Evatt home about 10.30pm on November 4, 2015.

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    Milan Urlich had been part of a group of people helping a woman move out of Mr Carville's home at the time.

    While at the house alone, he claimed Mr Carville had come at him with a knife and he had reacted by putting him in a choke hold.

    Milan Urlich said he had held Mr Carville until he dropped the knife, only to discover he was dead.

    He then wrapped Mr Carville's body in a rug, put it on his ute, and later dumped the vehicle in the paddock of a Sutton property, before stealing a van and fleeing to Marc Urlich?s Victorian home.

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    During the trial, the court heard that Milan Urlich had been diagnosed with schizophrenia.

    Milan Urlich said he had "freaked out" after killing Mr Carville and followed instructions provided*by "voices" in his head.

    He said the voices had not told him to kill Mr Carville.

    Milan Urlich had spent a number of days in Victoria before returning to Canberra with Marc Urlich.

    It was alleged the pair had moved the body at night, hiding it under several heavy boulders in a dry creek bed on Defence land in Majura.

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    The ute was then dumped at Molonglo Gorge, in Kowen Pine Forest, with a failed attempt to set it alight.

    During the trial, ACT deputy director of public prosecutions Shane Drumgold pointed to evidence from the autopsy that showed Mr Carville had suffered a fracture to a hyoid bone and thyroid cartilage in his neck, which could have been caused by a "pincer movement" of a hand placed around a throat.

    Mr Drumgold said evidence had shown Mr Carville had not been an aggressive man, and attacking a man with a knife would have been out of character.

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    The senior prosecutor said the weight of the rocks to conceal Mr Carville's body, and the timing involved, showed Milan Urlich had not acted alone, and evidence pointed to Marc Urlich as an accessory.

    Defence barrister, James Lawton, asked jurors to consider why Milan Urlich would want to kill Mr Carville as there had been no history of animosity or bad blood between the pair.

    Mr Lawton said it was plausible that Mr Carville had heard Milan Urlich enter his house and decided to approach him, taking a knife with him.

    Marc Urlich's barrister, James Sabharwal, argued there was no evidence to show his client had helped move the body, other than being in Canberra at the time.

    After receiving the verdict, Justice Burns remanded Milan Urlich in custody to reappear in August for a sentence hearing on the manslaughter charge.

    The judge ordered a pre-sentence and forensic mental health report be prepared for the hearing.

    https://www.canberratimes.com.au/nat...15-p4zlqv.html

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