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    I have a really difficult time with religion. Because of everything you just said. It all just seems inconceivable to me. That and I don't understand WHY things have to happen to children or good people. There is just too much bad shit in this world for me to believe in a higher power.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Ron_NYC View Post
    http://abc.go.com/watch/2020/SH55902...2020-76-heaven

    I'm watching this 20/20 special on Heaven, and it seriously makes me sad. I know some members here are religious, so I'll start off with saying I don't mean you. Anyway......It makes me sad to see people sitting there and falling for these snake-oil salesmen. It all seems like such a big con. They basically sell you a product that you never get.

    I mean a grown man was sitting there talking to Barbara Walters telling her about this magical place where all her loved ones are going to be. And it's great and good and magic.... This shit would be cute coming from a 5-year old, but not someone who is 55. It's seriously psych ward shit to me. I just DO NOT get it.

    And then they speak to a Mormon and ask if someone isn't Mormon, do they get in. And they asked the Evangelical the same thing. This is something else I don't understand about religion. If you really, really believe in your religion, don't you snicker under your breath thinking everyone else is wrong?

    Now they're talking to this woman who's saying that children need to hear these things about an afterlife to make them more comfortable about death. But I'm asking why do adults need to believe this too?
    as an adult i've only been to a handful of services outside of funerals. i had to restrain myself from yelling 'hail satan' at my cousin's funeral. mostly i just had to shut myself off. the funeral was in the right place, it should have been held in my grandma's church where his mother in law also was a member. strange that they call church goers members?

    when the pastor talked about satan taking my cousin from us, from himself, i just cringed. no offense to any people here, but who buys that stuff? forget that his uncle, maternal grandfather and maternal cousin's also committed suicide. satan just has it out for my family?

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    Quote Originally Posted by emmieslost View Post
    as an adult i've only been to a handful of services outside of funerals. i had to restrain myself from yelling 'hail satan' at my cousin's funeral. mostly i just had to shut myself off. the funeral was in the right place, it should have been held in my grandma's church where his mother in law also was a member. strange that they call church goers members?

    when the pastor talked about satan taking my cousin from us, from himself, i just cringed. no offense to any people here, but who buys that stuff? forget that his uncle, maternal grandfather and maternal cousin's also committed suicide. satan just has it out for my family?
    So does that mean: Satan > God

    Or does it mean that God doesn't care about that side of your family? I mean God could have stopped it but didn't?

    If God cannot,or will not help, then doesn't it make more sense to pray to Satan and ask for forgiveness?
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    When I was a kid, I dont think I ever believed it. It actually made me feel worse. I was never comforted by it at all.
    My uncle was killed by a drunk driver when I was 5. He wasnt a church goer, and I overheard my other Uncle and his wife discussing how he had never been saved and wasnt going to get into heaven. It made me angry. They were saying that this man who had never been anything but kind and decent to anyone wasnt going to go to heaven, but the guy who got drunk and killed him might if he asks for forgiveness? Fuck That. I was so angry and discomforted and sad.
    If heaven isnt a place you can get to just by being a good person throughout your life, but can get there for just for being repentant for the bad shit you HAVE done, Why would anyone want to go there? I know I dont.

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    Quote Originally Posted by jessielee View Post
    When I was a kid, I dont think I ever believed it. It actually made me feel worse. I was never comforted by it at all.
    My uncle was killed by a drunk driver when I was 5. He wasnt a church goer, and I overheard my other Uncle and his wife discussing how he had never been saved and wasnt going to get into heaven. It made me angry. They were saying that this man who had never been anything but kind and decent to anyone wasnt going to go to heaven, but the guy who got drunk and killed him might if he asks for forgiveness? Fuck That. I was so angry and discomforted and sad.
    If heaven isnt a place you can get to just by being a good person throughout your life, but can get there for just for being repentant for the bad shit you HAVE done, Why would anyone want to go there? I know I dont.
    I think you summed that up quite nicely.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Ron_NYC View Post
    I think you summed that up quite nicely.
    Thank you.
    And 5. 5 years old. I remember the day I lost my faith. at 5.

    scratch that. That was the day I realized I never had it

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    Religion was never presented to me as a child in any way. I had no idea what religion or spirituality meant. Living in the bible belt at 10 or so, someone asked me if I was a Christian. I didn't know wtf she was asking. Asked my mom, learned some junk, asked her to buy me a bible and take me to church. Went to church maybe 3 times, and felt like a bad person for the first time in my life. Decided that shit was for the birds, and asked my mom to buy me some books on Wicca. Studied that for a while. Didn't hate it. Eventually decided religion just wasn't for me. /cool story bro

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    I have religion and I don't try to convert anyone to it. I think everyone has their own path. I believe in God, for my own reasons.
    On a funny side note, there was something on Pinterest about Mitt Romney and Mormon Magical Undies and I was intrigued so I googled magical mormon underwear on my phone.
    My boyfriend borrowed it and asked why that popped into the search box.

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    Quote Originally Posted by captainjillian View Post
    I have religion and I don't try to convert anyone to it. I think everyone has their own path. I believe in God, for my own reasons.
    On a funny side note, there was something on Pinterest about Mitt Romney and Mormon Magical Undies and I was intrigued so I googled magical mormon underwear on my phone.
    My boyfriend borrowed it and asked why that popped into the search box.
    Dude, I'm so glad my husband doesn't use my computer. My brain works in weird ways, and I google everything He would be so confused.

    I have seen the future and I'm fairly relieved to say, it looks nothing like me.

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    See, when a tragedy like this theater shooting happens, I wonder how religion falls into place. I mean this shit already happened, so what the fuck good does praying now do? Praying for the family? Yea, cause me talking to myself here in Queens does those people over there a whole lot of good!
    Is the praying there to make me feel better? That would make more sense actually.

    And even if there is a God, we're prtty much on autopilot anyway. He's an absentee dad.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Ron_NYC View Post
    http://abc.go.com/watch/2020/SH55902...2020-76-heaven

    This is something else I don't understand about religion. If you really, really believe in your religion, don't you snicker under your breath thinking everyone else is wrong?
    As a kid I questioned how if different religions believe in different ideas of "god" how can any of them be right or wrong? Growing up in a very diverse area, I knew kids that came from all different religious backgrounds which made me start wondering why I should believe what they were telling me in the church I went to. Luckily my mom hated anything church related so when I decided I did not want to go anymore, I wasn't forced to.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Ron_NYC View Post
    See, when a tragedy like this theater shooting happens, I wonder how religion falls into place. I mean this shit already happened, so what the fuck good does praying now do? Praying for the family? Yea, cause me talking to myself here in Queens does those people over there a whole lot of good!
    Is the praying there to make me feel better? That would make more sense actually.

    And even if there is a God, we're prtty much on autopilot anyway. He's an absentee dad.

    You always pray after the fact of course. It's all part of god's plan. To take away people from their loved ones too soon and cause unbearable pain and sadness for them.

    Remember....


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    I don't get it either. Praying is for your comfort, not the person who is hurting. Just like telling a child, "You're ok!" when they fall down.
    I do pray to myself. I highly doubt it works but it does bring me comfort during difficult times. There's probably not a higher being but it has made my life easier to think so at times.
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    If someone I know if having a tough time, I tell them that I am thinking of them.
    When someone I love needs moral support, I tell them I'm sending them good vibes.
    I think that someone saying they will pray for you is essentially the same sentiment. No, it doesn't change anything (logically), but it can help to know someone cares, however they choose to communicate that.

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