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    Article in my local newspaper, The Sunday Mail:

    Kids spun out on the web
    By Anne Johnson

    SHE used to be a pretty-in-pink princess, a ballerina, filling her bedroom with stuffed toys and posters.

    At 14, she's awkward and feels unattractive so adopts an extreme style – pale, death-mask make-up and black clothing. She looks like a wilted plant.
    You can't talk to her about anything much because she's so far into acting the part.

    The truth is, she can't describe how she feels – even to herself. She misses you but has said so many hurtful things she doesn't believe you could or should really love her any more.

    She's overwhelmed by social pressures and schoolwork and she can't imagine any kind of future employment that would be in the least bit interesting.

    This evening she knows she should be accessing the internet to research a school project.

    Instead, she logs on to a website – MySpace, or YouTube – or the free messaging service for Windows program users, MSN.

    Her website identity is deliberately provocative. The photo she supplies suggests she's much older.

    Immediately, the website invites her to meet some "Cool New People". One of them appears to be dressed similarly and lives nearby. This new friend has other friends who "invite" her into their real-time conversations. The screen becomes their confessional – more "real" than anything else in their lives.

    Her best friend from primary school was an early developer. She's "hot" – part of the in-group, the kids from various private and state schools in the same district, who socialise on weekends.

    They still prefer to drink at parties rather than take drugs. They're sexually active without having intercourse.

    This group is reliant on mobile phones to arrange social calendars, organise transport – and photograph and video the events.

    This evening our second girl knows she, too, should be accessing the internet to research a school project.

    Instead, she has logged onto a "hosted" website where every service is free if you can find your way through the maze of advertising.

    She downloads a digital recording from her mobile phone. She adds a title page to her video – "slut", she types – and emails her friends to join her online.

    Gleefully, they download vision of a schoolmate performing a sex act. The video can be accessed by anybody who knows where to find it – and before long it's been widely distributed among "the group".

    The victim is devastated, as are her parents after the school counsellor makes them aware of the situation. There's nowhere to hide, no chance of relocating and starting afresh, such is the reach of the media which dominates these lives. If you don't understand how it works, you can't understand the power it holds.

    Mobile phones and the internet provide everything a teenager needs – information, communication, entertainment and a secret haven from adults.

    It is very much their world. They've grown up with new media and they use it brilliantly.

    Manipulation comes naturally to adolescents and this is the first generation which has been handed such an appropriate tool.

    THESE stories are anecdotal, but ask any high school student or teacher and they'll tell you they're pretty close to the mark.

    Well, really, you say. Where's the real harm?

    You may like to put that question to the two Adelaide school communities going about their end-of-year activities with heavy hearts, and the four local families facing Christmas without their teenage children.

    Three students from one high school took their lives this year, as did another from a nearby independent school.

    Death through suicide is never detailed in the media, but it's the reason police and educationalists are publicising their investigations into "internet secret societies" and so-called cyber-bullying.

    Police believe there may be a link between at least two of the tragedies, aside from the fact that the kids were all very young, and much loved.

    There's nothing wrong with a group of like-minded individuals meeting in cyberspace – unless they're selling something illegal or plotting violence.

    And although it's a criminal offence to post pornographic or abusive images and messages via the internet, it's hard to investigate and harder still to prosecute.

    Websites ask visitors to declare their ages and identities, but it's impossible to check their accuracy.

    If the law is no deterrent and schools can't control what happens after hours, we need to look at what's happening at home.

    If you have an adolescent, chances are your school will have provided advice for managing internet access. Did you understand it? Did you dismiss it out of hand as irrelevant? More information will be distributed early next year, after government and independent schools meet over the summer break.

    Only a brave parent dares to approach the dark tunnel of adolescence.

    I'm not being flippant when I suggest you approach via the internet. Arm yourself with knowledge. Remove the mystery.

    When it ends in tears
    If you consider email to be the new postal system, Microsoft's free messaging system, MSN, is the equivalent of swapping notes in class.
    My 11-year-old and I installed MSN earlier this year so he could chat with school friends. It's no big deal, I reasoned; a bit like a conference call. They'll talk about homework and tell weak jokes.

    I activated the privacy option which limited my son's exposure to those whose email addresses were entered in the computer's address book. But soon there seemed to be an awful lot of contributors to the conversation.

    Were they all from school? Well, a mate's cousin wanted to join in so my son added his email address to our computer list. The cousin brought in another friend. So much for safeguards.

    It wasn't long before the girls caught on, deftly replacing the boys' toilet humour with a daily soap opera which ended in tears, of course, after Miss X took a cruel and public swing at Miss Y.

    There were notes sent home and as soon as the adults got involved, the activity lost its appeal.

    But I guarantee the dominant students will find other ways to entertain their entourages by exploiting weaker characters – be they peers or even teachers.

    Free sites such as MySpace, YouTube, Piczo and Bebo offer direct messaging as well as "rooms" to visit or host, personalised with photos, videos or journals (blogs), created with the confidence that comes from operating behind a keyboard. You never have to look anyone in the eye.

    I've spent the week exploring hosted sites. I've admired some brilliant creations and met some dodgy characters – one wearing nothing but a sock on his old fella.

    I've guaranteed I'm older than 14 and I will "respect US law" but I could be younger or someone else entirely.

    If you're not sure how to take the trip, most libraries can help you get online. I'm sure your school would offer some advice. Maybe you could ask your child.
    Link here: http://www.news.com.au/adelaidenow/story/0,22606,20901565-5006301,00.html


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    [quote author=misanthrope link=topic=3191.msg114219#msg114219 date=1165744383]
    Article in my local newspaper, The Sunday Mail:

    Link here: http://www.news.com.au/adelaidenow/story/0,22606,20901565-5006301,00.html


    Kids spun out on the web
    By Anne Johnson

    SHE used to be a pretty-in-pink princess, a ballerina, filling her bedroom with stuffed toys and posters.

    At 14, she's awkward and feels unattractive so adopts an extreme style – pale, death-mask make-up and black clothing. She looks like a wilted plant.
    You can't talk to her about anything much because she's so far into acting the part.

    The truth is, she can't describe how she feels – even to herself. She misses you but has said so many hurtful things she doesn't believe you could or should really love her any more.

    She's overwhelmed by social pressures and schoolwork and she can't imagine any kind of future employment that would be in the least bit interesting.

    This evening she knows she should be accessing the internet to research a school project.

    Instead, she logs on to a website – MySpace, or YouTube – or the free messaging service for Windows program users, MSN.

    Her website identity is deliberately provocative. The photo she supplies suggests she's much older.

    Immediately, the website invites her to meet some "Cool New People". One of them appears to be dressed similarly and lives nearby. This new friend has other friends who "invite" her into their real-time conversations. The screen becomes their confessional – more "real" than anything else in their lives.

    Her best friend from primary school was an early developer. She's "hot" – part of the in-group, the kids from various private and state schools in the same district, who socialise on weekends.

    They still prefer to drink at parties rather than take drugs. They're sexually active without having intercourse.

    This group is reliant on mobile phones to arrange social calendars, organise transport – and photograph and video the events.

    This evening our second girl knows she, too, should be accessing the internet to research a school project.

    Instead, she has logged onto a "hosted" website where every service is free if you can find your way through the maze of advertising.

    She downloads a digital recording from her mobile phone. She adds a title page to her video – "slut", she types – and emails her friends to join her online.

    Gleefully, they download vision of a schoolmate performing a sex act. The video can be accessed by anybody who knows where to find it – and before long it's been widely distributed among "the group".

    The victim is devastated, as are her parents after the school counsellor makes them aware of the situation. There's nowhere to hide, no chance of relocating and starting afresh, such is the reach of the media which dominates these lives. If you don't understand how it works, you can't understand the power it holds.

    Mobile phones and the internet provide everything a teenager needs – information, communication, entertainment and a secret haven from adults.

    It is very much their world. They've grown up with new media and they use it brilliantly.

    Manipulation comes naturally to adolescents and this is the first generation which has been handed such an appropriate tool.

    THESE stories are anecdotal, but ask any high school student or teacher and they'll tell you they're pretty close to the mark.

    Well, really, you say. Where's the real harm?

    You may like to put that question to the two Adelaide school communities going about their end-of-year activities with heavy hearts, and the four local families facing Christmas without their teenage children.

    Three students from one high school took their lives this year, as did another from a nearby independent school.

    Death through suicide is never detailed in the media, but it's the reason police and educationalists are publicising their investigations into "internet secret societies" and so-called cyber-bullying.

    Police believe there may be a link between at least two of the tragedies, aside from the fact that the kids were all very young, and much loved.

    There's nothing wrong with a group of like-minded individuals meeting in cyberspace – unless they're selling something illegal or plotting violence.

    And although it's a criminal offence to post pornographic or abusive images and messages via the internet, it's hard to investigate and harder still to prosecute.

    Websites ask visitors to declare their ages and identities, but it's impossible to check their accuracy.

    If the law is no deterrent and schools can't control what happens after hours, we need to look at what's happening at home.

    If you have an adolescent, chances are your school will have provided advice for managing internet access. Did you understand it? Did you dismiss it out of hand as irrelevant? More information will be distributed early next year, after government and independent schools meet over the summer break.

    Only a brave parent dares to approach the dark tunnel of adolescence.

    I'm not being flippant when I suggest you approach via the internet. Arm yourself with knowledge. Remove the mystery.

    When it ends in tears
    If you consider email to be the new postal system, Microsoft's free messaging system, MSN, is the equivalent of swapping notes in class.
    My 11-year-old and I installed MSN earlier this year so he could chat with school friends. It's no big deal, I reasoned; a bit like a conference call. They'll talk about homework and tell weak jokes.

    I activated the privacy option which limited my son's exposure to those whose email addresses were entered in the computer's address book. But soon there seemed to be an awful lot of contributors to the conversation.

    Were they all from school? Well, a mate's cousin wanted to join in so my son added his email address to our computer list. The cousin brought in another friend. So much for safeguards.

    It wasn't long before the girls caught on, deftly replacing the boys' toilet humour with a daily soap opera which ended in tears, of course, after Miss X took a cruel and public swing at Miss Y.

    There were notes sent home and as soon as the adults got involved, the activity lost its appeal.

    But I guarantee the dominant students will find other ways to entertain their entourages by exploiting weaker characters – be they peers or even teachers.

    Free sites such as MySpace, YouTube, Piczo and Bebo offer direct messaging as well as "rooms" to visit or host, personalised with photos, videos or journals (blogs), created with the confidence that comes from operating behind a keyboard. You never have to look anyone in the eye.

    I've spent the week exploring hosted sites. I've admired some brilliant creations and met some dodgy characters – one wearing nothing but a sock on his old fella.

    I've guaranteed I'm older than 14 and I will "respect US law" but I could be younger or someone else entirely.

    If you're not sure how to take the trip, most libraries can help you get online. I'm sure your school would offer some advice. Maybe you could ask your child.
    [/quote]yup

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    Maybe people should stop blaming the media and start looking at their retarded kids. Or their shotty parenting skills.

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    [quote author=PengPeng link=topic=3191.msg114249#msg114249 date=1165747230]
    Maybe people should stop blaming the media and start looking at their retarded kids. Or their shotty parenting skills.
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    yep.

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    [quote author=PengPeng link=topic=3191.msg114249#msg114249 date=1165747230]
    Maybe people should stop blaming the media and start looking at their retarded kids. Or their shotty parenting skills.
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    BEST COMMENT EVER.  :lol:
    Boring game.

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    Parents sometimes just don't want to accept their 12, 14 year old kids are messed up, having unprotected sex, drinking, doing drugs among other things. That's the first problem.
    <br /><br /><br />&quot;We&#39;re all fucked. It helps to remember that.&quot;<br />- George Carlin

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    [quote author=DreamRai link=topic=3191.msg116253#msg116253 date=1166042754]
    Parents sometimes just don't want to accept their 12, 14 year old kids are messed up, having unprotected sex, drinking, doing drugs among other things. That's the first problem.
    [/quote]

    First problem would probably most commonly be the parents shouldn't be allowing their 14 year olds out past midnight, give them 200$ allowances to buy drugs, and not to anything to reinforce responsibility (not to sound all cop-like)... like letting the TV be an babysitter, grounding kids (most of the time it just makes them angsty, right?), not staying up with the times minimally enough to know what kids do these days... Jane isn't gonna go study at the library with her friends, when she's got 150$ booty jeans you bought for her on and a Victoria's secret no pad pushup for her A cup 14 year old boobs...

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    Damn Peng Peng, you are getting more militant with age aren't ya?&nbsp; :lol:

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    [quote author=daybreaksdisdain link=topic=3191.msg116696#msg116696 date=1166097457]
    Damn Peng Peng, you are getting more militant with age aren't ya?Â* :lol:
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    No, but I've always fancied being in charge of shock troops&nbsp; :-)

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    [quote author=PengPeng link=topic=3191.msg116699#msg116699 date=1166098644]
    No, but I've always fancied being in charge of shock troopsÂ* :-)
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    :lol: Nice!

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    [quote author=DreamRai link=topic=3191.msg116253#msg116253 date=1166042754]
    Parents sometimes just don't want to accept their 12, 14 year old kids are messed up, having unprotected sex, drinking, doing drugs among other things. That's the first problem.
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    I've done drugs before and I feel really bad about it...

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    [quote author=PengPeng link=topic=3191.msg114249#msg114249 date=1165747230]
    Maybe people should stop blaming the media and start looking at their retarded kids. Or their shotty parenting skills.
    [/quote]


    I love it! It's so fuckin true. Kids are running around doing all kinds of wild shit, and these shitty parents want to look at the media!!
    Like the Columbine kids. They were building bombs in their parents house!!! Working with tools under their roof!!!!
    So lets look in their CD collection, we'll find the problem there!&nbsp;
    Couldn't be irresponsible parenting....no, not that. Must have been something they saw on TV, or heard on the radio.
    Even though millions of people have heard the exact same shit, and haven't gone on a killing spree.&nbsp;
    I swear, the parents should get charged for the crimes these little shits commit.
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    [quote author=PengPeng link=topic=3191.msg116616#msg116616 date=1166075657]
    First problem would probably most commonly be the parents shouldn't be allowing their 14 year olds out past midnight, give them 200$ allowances to buy drugs, and not to anything to reinforce responsibility (not to sound all cop-like)... like letting the TV be an babysitter, grounding kids (most of the time it just makes them angsty, right?), not staying up with the times minimally enough to know what kids do these days... Jane isn't gonna go study at the library with her friends, when she's got 150$ booty jeans you bought for her on and a Victoria's secret no pad pushup for her A cup 14 year old boobs...
    [/quote]

    Completely agree.&nbsp;

    And now parents are scared to discipline their kids cause it's child abuse, when my mom or my grandparents gave me a good ass whopping I knew I had it coming. Like Bernie Mac says &quot;theres no Big Mamma anymore.&quot;&nbsp; :|
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    [quote author=PengPeng link=topic=3191.msg116616#msg116616 date=1166075657]
    First problem would probably most commonly be the parents shouldn't be allowing their 14 year olds out past midnight, give them 200$ allowances to buy drugs, and not to anything to reinforce responsibility (not to sound all cop-like)... like letting the TV be an babysitter, grounding kids (most of the time it just makes them angsty, right?), not staying up with the times minimally enough to know what kids do these days... Jane isn't gonna go study at the library with her friends, when she's got 150$ booty jeans you bought for her on and a Victoria's secret no pad pushup for her A cup 14 year old boobs...
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    Amen, honey.
    Though I think I diasgree with the grounding thing. Most parents just don't do it right.

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    Absolutely agree with the shitty parenting argument, but what scares the living hell out of me and makes me want my daughter to stay 2 forever are the families with everything seemingly together.Â*

    I mean, you never know what the inside is really like...I get that.Â* But the columbine kids (I did my final thesis on school violence) parents' were, from all reports, completely uninvolved with their kids.Â* They didn't check out their internet activities, didn't seem to know what was going on at school (with the bullying), unaware of the BOMB BUILDING going on in their garage....the list goes on.Â*

    But take Kip Kinkel, the kid from Oregon.Â* His parents were completely involved.Â* They were both professional teachers, kept up with his activities and friends, secured a mental health provider and proper medication when things seemed to be slipping for their son.Â* It seems their only real &quot;mistake&quot; was keeping a locked up gun in their house.Â* What happened?Â* He offed both of them and then went on a shooting spree at school.Â*

    Point:Â* It scares me that with no apparent abuse, plenty of attention (without smothering), education, medical treatment, and a seemingly loving home environment...this kid still went off the deep end.Â* Scares the shit out of me.Â* Proof positive that truly evil people actually exist.

    /end rant
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    I can promise everyone of you now. If I ever have kids acting out in a totally off way. I WILL kick the shit out of them in order to straighten them up. PROMISE. Threat of having &quot;Child Abuse&quot; cried on me or not. Sometimes, these little assholes need a swift kick in the ass. If my kid chooses to act like on of these little assholes, then it's on.&nbsp;

    You feel lukcy? Asshole. Well do ya?
    Boring game.

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    LMAO, Cartman! You're amazing!&nbsp; :lol:

    if i have kids, i'm making little pandora clones. they will be gross individuals and watch rated R movies with me by the time they are 4. we're going to be best friends and hang out and make fun of people together.&nbsp;

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    [quote author=DreamRai link=topic=3191.msg123734#msg123734 date=1167004465]
    Completely agree.Â*

    And now parents are scared to discipline their kids cause it's child abuse, when my mom or my grandparents gave me a good ass whopping I knew I had it coming. Like Bernie Mac says &quot;theres no Big Mamma anymore.&quot;Â* :|
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    &quot;Big Mama&quot; checking in.&nbsp; I tell my son that if he wants to call the cops on me after whipping his butt that I'll dial the phone for him.....but he better be prepared to get the worst beating in his life whilst awaiting the authorities!&nbsp; He knows I'm not messing with him.&nbsp; He knows I check on him constantly.&nbsp; Also, I've had him involved in martial arts for many years.&nbsp; If he's not scared of me, he is certainly aftraid of his &quot;Master&quot;&nbsp; He'll get his black belt yanked so fast.........

    We also discuss feelings about how &quot;all the other kids&quot;&nbsp; do things.&nbsp;
    I don&#039;t enter into mental warfare with morons.&nbsp; It&#039;s immoral and unethical.&nbsp; They have no ammunition.&nbsp; AIDA convention regulations, article VII, Paragraph XII&nbsp;&nbsp;

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    Carlos Mencia said it best...


    May be off by a word or two...

    Mencia's mom:

    &quot;Go ahead... you little fucker. Call the police. (Slams phone down on a table), but you better call the coroner first and tell them there is a shittin dead fucking mexican boy on our living room floor!!&quot;

    Mencia: I was just joking... can't you take a joke... look... dad's laughing....
    Boring game.

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