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    [quote author=deeply shaded link=topic=18370.msg1223440#msg1223440 date=1237853151]
    No it says she is paying for the nannies herself and the angels organization was training them.
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    The $$$ amount is staggering.......
    I see problems in the very near future.


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    To care for the new arrivals, Suleman has accepted the invitation of Angels in Waiting, a nonprofit that will provide around-the-clock nurses once the babies are brought home over the next few weeks, according to Dr. Phil McGraw, who helped arranged the deal along with attorney Gloria Allred.

    "Nadya realized that she had to make every effort to care for the octuplets as well as the six children at home in a way that proved that she understood the enormity and complexity of the task ahead," says McGraw, whose show will address the matter Tuesday and Wednesday.

    The neonatal intensive care nurses specialize in premature infant developmental care, says Linda Conforti West, CEO and founder of Angels in Waiting. The agency would have 14 nurses a day, four to five at a time, working around the clock, representatives recently told PEOPLE. Normally, they say, that kind of care would cost about $135,000 a month. The nurses' salaries are paid by the organization

    http://www.people.com/people/article/0,,20264408,00.html?xid=rss-topheadlines

    Also if anyone wants to see the birth video here's the link.....
    http://www.newstin.com/rel/us/en-010-011786717
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    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bxtgLzi-aK0&eurl=http%3A%2F%2Fwww%2Ebabble%2Ecom%2FCS% 2Fblogs%2Ffamecrawler%2Farchive%2F2009%2F03%2F12%2 Fnadya%2Dsuleman%2Dgiving%2Dbirth%2Dvideo%2Easpx&a mp;feature=player_embedded

    Fucking awesome!

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    [quote author=White trash bitchy blonde link=topic=18370.msg1223564#msg1223564 date=1237862528]
    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bxtgLzi-aK0&eurl=http%3A%2F%2Fwww%2Ebabble%2Ecom%2FCS% 2Fblogs%2Ffamecrawler%2Farchive%2F2009%2F03%2F12%2 Fnadya%2Dsuleman%2Dgiving%2Dbirth%2Dvideo%2Easpx&a mp;feature=player_embedded

    Fucking awesome!
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    hahahahahahahah That's horrible. 
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    Lawyer: Suleman cares for cameras, not babies
    She reveals how tension grew between octuplet mom and volunteer nurses
    By Mike Celizic
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    updated 7:30 a.m. MT, Wed., March. 25, 2009

    Infamous octuplet mom Nadya Suleman is more interested in feeding the cameras than feeding her babies, the lawyer for a group that had attempted to help care for Suleman’s 14 children has alleged.

    “How can she succeed if she is subjecting her babies to potential risks of harm? If she doesn’t even come into the nursery to feed her own babies, to hold them, to bathe them, to change them, to love them, to bond with them, except when the cameras are rolling?” Gloria Allred told TODAY’s Lester Holt Wednesday from Los Angeles.

    “There’s only a few hours beyond the time when the cameras were rolling that she actually came into the nursery when she was there to care for her babies, and that’s wrong.”

    Angels go home
    Allred represents Angels in Waiting, a not-for-profit group that initially had an agreement brokered by television psychologist Dr. Phil McGraw to provide around-the-clock nursing care and developmental specialists for Suleman’s octuplets as well as the six children under the age of 8 she already has at home.

    The arrangement with the group didn’t last long. On Monday, with four of the 58-day-old octuplets home and four more still gaining strength in Kaiser Permanente Bellflower Medical Center, all parties confirmed that Suleman had told Angels in Waiting that their services were no longer needed.

    Suleman attorney Jeff Czech said the relationship started badly between Suleman and Angels in Waiting, which has been training nannies paid by Suleman at the family's La Habra home.

    “It started out adversarial and never really resolved itself,” Czech told The Associated Press. “Nadya felt that she was being judged wrongfully, and she didn't need it. All it did was make a difficult situation worse.”

    Law and disorder
    Allred confirmed that the group, headed by Linda Conforti, had filed three complaints with child welfare officials about Suleman. The first alleged that the home Suleman was then living in with her mother was unsuitable for 14 children. Suleman is no longer living in that house, and is now in the La Habra home.

    The attorney said the nurses were only doing their jobs. “Nurses are mandated reporters under the law. If a nurse sees that a baby or a child is endangered, neglected, abused or in any way potentially harmed — at risk of great harm — they are legally required to report that to authorities,” Allred told Holt.

    Suleman has been posting daily blogs and providing video for the RadarOnline.com Web site. She also reportedly sold pictures of the birth of her octuplets, and says she is paying for her own nannies. She says the nannies are being trained by specialists from Kaiser Permanente, where the babies were born.

    The single mother complained online that Conforti made her “nauseous” with continuous warnings that her babies would be abducted because of a lack of security at her home, which is located in what was formerly a quiet residential neighborhood but is now paparazzi central. When Suleman brought the first two infants home, hordes of reporters, photographers and cameramen besieged the SUV carrying her and the children, trying to pursue it into the home’s garage.

    Inside, camera crews from RadarOnline were in the nursery filming. Angels in Waiting contends the camera crew and their equipment present a risk of infection to the infants.

    “Our nurses were rightfully concerned about security,” Allred said. “After all, Nadya had told the world where she lives. She told the world when those babies were coming home, and as a result, hundreds of reporters came.”

    911 on speed dial
    The attorney said that on two occasions intruders entered the backyard of the home. Suleman asked a nanny to call 911 on the first occasion, Allred said, saying Suleman didn’t want to call herself because she feared she had already made too many calls to local police.

    “Then a nanny came onto the property without showing any identification,” Allred continued. “The nanny herself indicated to our nurse that the baby could be abducted. She could have walked out with the baby in her purse. And [Conforti], the nurse, attempted to talk with Nadya about that.”

    It all came to a head Sunday night, Allred said, when two infants were being brought home.

    “It was a dangerous situation, a situation that was out of control inside the house as well as outside of the house,” she said.

    Suleman called 911 that night to ask police to come and remove Allred from her house. Allred told Holt that Suleman then told police there wasn’t a problem and apologized to Allred, who remained until 1:30 a.m.

    But by Monday, Suleman had ended her agreement with Allred and Angels in Waiting.

    Allred, who is scheduled to tell more of her story on Dr. Phil’s show, repeated that Suleman is not responding to the security concerns.

    “Look, we need security here for these babies. Yet, instead of providing security, she puts in her own Jacuzzi instead of hiring security guards,” she told Holt.


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    Really how could they have ever thought that was going to go well. I know if it was me I  would not have let those people within 10 miles of my babies. They were stirring trouble for her before they even knew her, basically forced themselves into her life and then probably treated her like crap. Fuck them.
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    :-o :-o :-o




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    :-o :-o :-o





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    Wait. That's an old cover but the link says Angelina-Jolie-to-Help-Out-Financially-Strapped-Nadya-Suleman.
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    http://news.softpedia.com/news/Angelina-Jolie-to-Help-Out-Financially-Strapped-Nadya-Suleman-108008.shtml

    According to several reports in US tabloids and glossy magazines, Jolie is actually considering lending a helping hand to Suleman, especially now that she’s heading for troubled financial waters.

    “Angelina is worried about the best interests of the kids. As a mom of six, she knows how chaotic and costly raising a big family can be.” an unnamed source tells the media, as quoted by Star magazine. “She doesn’t necessarily approve of Nadya, and she doesn’t want to turn the situation into even more of a circus.” the same spy adds, saying that the actress will see to it that Suleman gets all the help she needs without drawing more media attention to her case.


    The article also talks about diaper companies, formula companies and baby food companies that have withdrawn support because of 'backlash from the public.' That's utter garbage. Is the public happy that the babies are paying the price for that? And the companies that won't help out babies because it might make them look bad? Ugh, you've got to be kidding. Those are the companies that need to be boycotted. 
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    I don't know DS, I totally understand your position, but it galls me to see her rewarded for her greed.  And if Allred is telling the truth and the only time she is around those babies is when the cameras is rolling?  Well that speaks volumes.  I know a lot of people don't like Allred, but in this instance....I am not quite sure she isn't right about Suleman.

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    I don't know DS, I totally understand your position, but it galls me to see her rewarded for her greed.  And if Allred is telling the truth and the only time she is around those babies is when the cameras is rolling?  Well that speaks volumes.  I know a lot of people don't like Allred, but in this instance....I am not quite sure she isn't right about Suleman.
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    But it's not okay to punish the babies in my opinion. And if those companies cared about the babies they would be helping. It's obvious it's their image that they are concerned about. And the fact that not helping babies is what is good for their image in this case is really upsetting to me. The public is so pathetic that they want this women punished no matter what. Ugh. 

    I guess as long as there are nannies with the babies it doesn't matter if she's not with them. That probably happens a lot in homes with rich, busy, social butterfly types with nannies. Not ideal, to be sure, but I'm sure she's far from the only mom like that. 

    Pampers and Gerber are the only company names I see mentioned. I'm going to send hate mail to them both. I'll tell them my new grandbaby won't be anywhere near their products. That'll show them.

    And what irks me about Gloria Allred is that if octomom had approached her at the start and said oh I have these babies and they want to take them from me wah wah Gloria would have been in there defending her like crazy. But that didn't happen so she had to interject herself in some other way. I mean, when is the last time she had any 'real' attention? The Scott Peterson case?
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    But it's not okay to punish the babies in my opinion. And if those companies cared about the babies they would be helping. It's obvious it's their image that they are concerned about. And the fact that not helping babies is what is good for their image in this case is really upsetting to me. The public is so pathetic that they want this women punished no matter what. Ugh. 

    I guess as long as there are nannies with the babies it doesn't matter if she's not with them. That probably happens a lot in homes with rich, busy, social butterfly types with nannies. Not ideal, to be sure, but I'm sure she's far from the only mom like that. 

    Pampers and Gerber are the only company names I see mentioned. I'm going to send hate mail to them both. I'll tell them my new grandbaby won't be anywhere near their products. That'll show them.

    And what irks me about Gloria Allred is that if octomom had approached her at the start and said oh I have these babies and they want to take them from me wah wah Gloria would have been in there defending her like crazy. But that didn't happen so she had to interject herself in some other way. I mean, when is the last time she had any 'real' attention? The Scott Peterson case?
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    Truthfully, I don't think Suleman thought anyone would berate and be against her as much as they are, much less try to take her babies.  The babies shouldn't suffer, that is a fact, they didn't ask for this...I guess what bothers me too is just what kind of life, role models, etc.  are these children going to have?  I honestly haven't seen anything that warrants her losing the children, we only know what we do about her because of her and the media.  There are much worse out there I am sure.  I don't think she is fit to be a parent, but that is my personal opinion and until/if she does something to warrant losing those children, I have to agree she shouldn't....my personal feelings aside.  I think she will do whatever she can to keep her little meal tickets happy.  Also, the personal side of me doesn't want her getting any help and is a bit gleeful about those companies.  The logical side though, the one that is being honest and objective.....it isn't fair to punish the children and public outcry or not if the companies said they would help her they should...bottom line.

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    Truthfully, I don't think Suleman thought anyone would berate and be against her as much as they are, much less try to take her babies.   The babies shouldn't suffer, that is a fact, they didn't ask for this...I guess what bothers me too is just what kind of life, role models, etc.  are these children going to have?  I honestly haven't seen anything that warrants her losing the children, we only know what we do about her because of her and the media.  There are much worse out there I am sure.  I don't think she is fit to be a parent, but that is my personal opinion and until/if she does something to warrant losing those children, I have to agree she shouldn't....my personal feelings aside.  I think she will do whatever she can to keep her little meal tickets happy.  Also, the personal side of me doesn't want her getting any help and is a bit gleeful about those companies.  The logical side though, the one that is being honest and objective.....it isn't fair to punish the children and public outcry or not if the companies said they would help her they should...bottom line.
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    There are too many gleeful people and that's why these companies, who only care about their public image, backed away. People who are happy to see the babies lose support from people who could help just because they don't like this bitch are the ones I just don't understand.

    The babies are here. Get over it and quit trying to punish them for it.

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    There are too many gleeful people and that's why these companies, who only care about their public image, backed away. People who are happy to see the babies lose support from people who could help just because they don't like this bitch are the ones I just don't understand.

    The babies are here. Get over it and quit trying to punish them for it.

    This is meant for the world in general, sarabei, not you.
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    Oh, I know DS, and that is the thing, my or anyone elses personal feelings are irrelevant...the babies are what is important now.  I think people should give cloths etc., but no $$$$.  Maybe then Nadya would have to actually be a real mom.  If all the children (including the older ones, I feel they get lost in the shuffle) have their physical needs met, then I don't think Suleman should need donations.  Donate gift cards to grocery stores where all she can buy is food.  Take care of the kids, but don't let her profit from their very existence.  Also, what people have to realize is how we feel about Nadya personally is just that..personal and cannot affect the safety of the children.  I think the companies are wrong for what they are doing.  At first I was all for letting her sink like a stone, but I listened to what you said and you have some valid points...I still despise her and want her to sink like a stone, I just don't want the kids to sink with her, you know?

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    I 100% agree that the important part of this less than ideal situation is the care and well being of the children.  Some of the decsion's Nadya has made since the babies have been home have exhibited her immaturity or ignorance.  I am not sure which one it is.

    I would like to see this work for the sake of the all of the children but I can see it failing.  Big time.
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    She is not a sympathetic person at all. She's easy to hate. That's why the babies sort of get lost in it all, because people don't want anything good to happen to her. I do understand that. I do, I do. I'm not defending the stupid stuff she has done at all. I just think people need to overlook their hatred of her and think about the babies. I know that's not an easy thing, though. It's also not that easy to separate who is benefiting from certain things, her or the babies.
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    And I the older children are getting lost in the shuffle.....

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    She is not a sympathetic person at all. She's easy to hate. That's why the babies sort of get lost in it all, because people don't want anything good to happen to her. I do understand that. I do, I do. I'm not defending the stupid stuff she has done at all. I just think people need to overlook their hatred of her and think about the babies. I know that's not an easy thing, though. It's also not that easy to separate who is benefiting from certain things, her or the babies.
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    I say let HER think about the babies.  It's only because she was allowed to become a celebrity that we're thinking about hers at all.  Millions of people could use free diapers though.  Why does she deserve freebies more than someone who only managed to have triplets?  I don't hate her, just what she represents and I wish it would stop.
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    I say let HER think about the babies.  It's only because she was allowed to become a celebrity that we're thinking about hers at all.  Millions of people could use free diapers though.  Why does she deserve freebies more than someone who only managed to have triplets?  I don't hate her, just what she represents and I wish it would stop.
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    SHE doesn't deserve anything.  All of her children cannot be made to suffer for their mother's mistakes.  At this point people are trying to keep this family together.  Do I think it will work?  Nope.
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    SHE doesn't deserve anything.  All of her children cannot be made to suffer for their mother's mistakes.  At this point people are trying to keep this family together.  Do I think it will work?  Nope.
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    I'm still of the opinion the Dionne solution might be the right one.  (minus the tourist trap museum -- what is it? Quintland?)
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    I'm still of the opinion the Dionne solution might be the right one.  (minus the tourist trap museum -- what is it? Quintland?)
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    Holy crap. How did I get to be this old and not know about quintland? That is so sick.
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    Holy crap. How did I get to be this old and not know about quintland? That is so sick.
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    I thought everyone knew about quintland. :lol:
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    I thought everyone knew about quintland. :lol:
    http://www.quintland.com/start.html

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    I googled it when you said that and found that site. If I knew that I've forgotten it, which is possible. What a horrible thing for a country to do to its little citizens.

    So would this be octoland then?
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    I googled it when you said that and found that site. If I knew that I've forgotten it, which is possible. What a horrible thing for a country to do to its little citizens.

    So would this be octoland then?
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    [quote author=puzzld link=topic=18370.msg1231899#msg1231899 date=1238458243]
    Bigger, gaudier, more strange. With webcams.
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    So not to stay off topic for too long here, but I'm in shock over quintland. How could they have ever seen that as acceptable and a good idea?
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    [quote author=deeply shaded link=topic=18370.msg1231913#msg1231913 date=1238458593]
    So not to stay off topic for too long here, but I'm in shock over quintland. How could they have ever seen that as acceptable and a good idea?
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    I think in part it's because our ideas about personal privacy have really changed over the last 70 years or so.  It used to be routine to list all the hospital admissions. To have the polio poster child, the birth defect poster child and so on.  The freak show came to town and everyone turn out to see...

    But on the other hand, is it so very different from letting the cameras come in to film Jon and Kate, the Duggers, etc.?  I doubt if the Duggers would stop just because 1, 2, or 3 of the J's objected. We just have the technology so that you don't have to drive all the way to darkest Canada.
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