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    Commentary: Why 'Tropic Thunder' shouldn't be seen

    This article has convinced me to see this movie! If you can't stand a few RETARD jokes, please don't ever leave your house.  duuhhhhrrrrr

    http://www.cnn.com/2008/SHOWBIZ/Movies/08/12/shriver.thunder/index.html

    [size=15pt]Commentary: Why 'Tropic Thunder' shouldn't be seen[/size]

    Editor's Note: Timothy Shriver, the chairman of Special Olympics for the past 11 years, co-produced the 1997 DreamWorks Studios movie "Amistad." His mother, Eunice Kennedy Shriver, the sister of Sen. Ted Kennedy, founded Special Olympics and his father, Sargent Shriver, served as president. Tim's sister Maria, the wife of California Gov. Arnold Schwarzenegger, is a Special Olympics board member.

    WASHINGTON (CNN) -- I am so proud of everyone who turned out to Monday's premiere of the film "Tropic Thunder" to protest its unfortunate and humiliating portrayal of people with intellectual disabilities.

    Prior to the premiere, I joined a large coalition of individuals and organizations to engage in discussions with DreamWorks Studios CEO Stacey Snider and others from the studio to express our concern over the film's "Simple Jack" subplot and the slogans, "Once upon a time there was a retard," and "Never go full retard."

    Members of the Coalition of National Disability Organizations -- disabled advocates and family members of people with intellectual disabilities -- have seen the movie and reported shock and disgust. Their reactions have resonated with many of us who take their cause and their voice with the utmost seriousness.

    While I am disappointed that we were not consulted in the same manner as other minority groups depicted in the film and that there are 17 mentions of the "R-word" with one mention of the "N-word," I am grateful to Ms. Snider for listening to the coalition and for taking steps to eliminate some of the film's most offensive marketing elements.

    I am also appreciative of her commitment to working in the future for an end to denigrating speech and hurtful portrayals of people with intellectual disabilities in film and in society. DreamWorks and its leaders have a powerful reputation for advancing socially and politically important issues.

    In particular, Steven Spielberg has been a generous supporter of the work of Special Olympics, for which I am deeply grateful. I look forward to counting the hopes and dreams of 200 million people with intellectual disabilities among the causes of this formidable group of creative and artistic leaders.

    Now, however, is the time to raise our voices against "Tropic Thunder" and the harm it is sure to visit on people with intellectual disabilities.

    Together with the members of the international coalition, I am asking Steven Spielberg, Stacey Snider, Ben Stiller and the entire "Tropic Thunder" team to stop showing the film, and asking movie theaters and moviegoers to shut this movie out. "Tropic Thunder" is a colossal blunder. Don't show or see "Tropic Thunder."

    The degrading use of the word "retard" together with the broader humiliation of people with intellectual disabilities in the film goes way too far. When the R-word is casually bandied about and when bumbling, clueless caricatures designed to mimic the behavior of people with intellectual disabilities are on screen, they have an unmistakable outcome: They mock, directly or indirectly, people with intellectual disabilities. They perpetuate the worst stereotypes. They further exclusion and isolation. They are simply mean.

    Mockery in any form, or for any purpose or directed at anyone, especially those least able to defend themselves, is neither funny nor acceptable. We must work together to bring it to an end. As chairman of the Special Olympics, I am inspired to be as vocal as possible about this important matter to effect positive change and to generate support for those who deserve our respect.

    Name-calling is a subtle but malicious practice that only serves to perpetuate stigma, fear, intolerance and more. iReport.com: Share your thoughts on 'Tropic Thunder'

    Ridicule is a subtle but malicious practice that only serves to exclude and marginalize people with intellectual disabilities. Stop "Tropic Thunder."

    People with intellectual disabilities can be great athletes, productive employees, positive friends, courageous role models. Let's open our schools, doctors offices, businesses, communities, and most importantly, our hearts to the giftedness of every human being. No more exceptions. No more exclusion.

    Some may think we ought to lighten up and not get so worked up because this is, after all, just a film. But films become part of pop culture and character lines are repeated in other settings time and time again. It's clear to me that lines from this particular film will provide hurtful ammunition outside the movie theatre. While I realize that the film's creators call this a parody and they never intended to hurt anyone, it doesn't mean those words won't.

    How can you help? Ban the R-word. Ban the movie. Take a stand.

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    Re: Commentary: Why 'Tropic Thunder' shouldn't be seen

    I read an article similar to this, that basically stated, "this movie could bother some people, be warned," but did not call for a protest.  Seriously, people need to get a grip.  This is what political correctness gets you.  If you don't like what you have heard, don't go watch it but there is stuff on MTV that is more disgusting and wrong than a few jokes in a movie that apparently is supposed to be one big lampoon of the movie industry/war movies, etc...

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    Re: Commentary: Why 'Tropic Thunder' shouldn't be seen

    Why don't they write reviews like this for every movie that makes a derogatory statement about any type of person? Plenty of movies make fun of people... whether it be their age, gender, sexual (mis)conduct, race, nationality, etc., etc. If they (whoever these journalists are) really want to be taken seriously, they should be writing about every movie ever filmed, not just one certain issue in one certain movie.  :|

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    Re: Commentary: Why 'Tropic Thunder' shouldn't be seen

    [quote author=Chompin link=topic=15694.msg966622#msg966622 date=1218651401]
    I read an article similar to this, that basically stated, "this movie could bother some people, be warned," but did not call for a protest.  Seriously, people need to get a grip.  This is what political correctness gets you.  If you don't like what you have heard, don't go watch it but there is stuff on MTV that is more disgusting and wrong than a few jokes in a movie that apparently is supposed to be one big lampoon of the movie industry/war movies, etc...
    [/quote]
    I don't think that political correctness is a bad thing.
    That's like saying free speech is a bad idea when the Klan decides to exercise theirs.
    Just because a few people abuse the current trend of PC-ness it doesn't mean it's a bad concept.

    I don't understand why people have a problem with a comedy. It's not a fuckin documentary, it's a comedy.
    In the context of comedy, what's wrong with making everything fair game?
    And it's not like it's a movie specifically made to make fun of retards. It makes fun of everyone!

    Best thing people who don't like this kind of thing can do is not see it. Good idea. Protest asshats.
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    [quote author=Ron_NYC link=topic=15694.msg966630#msg966630 date=1218651752]
    Good idea. Protest asshats.
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    I say protest the Special Olympics. If everyone wants to be PC, fair, and balanced, they can try out for the REAL Olympics.

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    [quote author=mydeathspace link=topic=15694.msg966639#msg966639 date=1218651981]
    I say protest the Special Olympics. If everyone wants to be PC, fair, and balanced, they can try out for the REAL Olympics.
    [/quote]

    Really.

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    [quote author=Ron_NYC link=topic=15694.msg966630#msg966630 date=1218651752]


    I don't understand why people have a problem with a comedy.

    Best thing people who don't like this kind of thing can do is not see it. 
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    We were watching Blazing Saddles the other day and thought, man you can't make a movie like that anymore. 

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    [quote author=the color nine link=topic=15694.msg966699#msg966699 date=1218655166]
    We were watching Blazing Saddles the other day and thought, man you can't make a movie like that anymore. 
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    Yeah no kidding...that one part in the beginning, "We can't afford to lose any horses, send one of the..."

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    Re: Commentary: Why 'Tropic Thunder' shouldn't be seen

    The retard that makes me not want to see this movie is Ben Stiller.

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    [quote author=mydeathspace link=topic=15694.msg966639#msg966639 date=1218651981]
    I say protest the Special Olympics. If everyone wants to be PC, fair, and balanced, they can try out for the REAL Olympics.
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    Ditto!

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    Re: Commentary: Why 'Tropic Thunder' shouldn't be seen

    just bought tickets. It better be good.

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    Re: Commentary: Why 'Tropic Thunder' shouldn't be seen

    When I was in Jr. High there was this chick named Audra, she was mentally duh and rode around in an electric scooter. Well she would always come to class with food and drool all on her face and the desk top she had connected to her cart, it made me sick cause she sat next to me and stunk. I always wondered why her help wouldn't clean her up before she went to class because it would cause her to be ridiculed. Anyways I use to hold on to the back of her scooter when she would try to leave and she would get all frustrated because she couldn't figure out why she wasn't moving.
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    [quote author=mydeathspace link=topic=15694.msg966614#msg966614 date=1218651177]
    Now, however, is the time to raise our voices against "Tropic Thunder" and the harm it is sure to visit on people with intellectual disabilities.[/quote]

    How many retards do they expect will be seeing, and more importantly, understanding this movie?  They obviously have high expectations for the success of this movie.  I want to see it.
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    Re: Commentary: Why 'Tropic Thunder' shouldn't be seen

    Saw it yesterday and it's safe to say you'd have to be pretty retarded to enjoy it, so this boycott could really be devastating.

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    [quote author=bowieluva link=topic=15694.msg974860#msg974860 date=1219121121]
    Saw it yesterday and it's safe to say you'd have to be pretty retarded to enjoy it, so this boycott could really be devastating.
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    But they made it sound like all they did was make fun of the industry. Like it was non stop laughs where they made fun of everyone and everything, and Ben Stiller is back on top!
    I dunno man.....you hate Diablo Cody too.
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    [quote author=bowieluva link=topic=15694.msg974860#msg974860 date=1219121121]
    Saw it yesterday and it's safe to say you'd have to be pretty retarded to enjoy it, so this boycott could really be devastating.
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    What if you're not retarded, but go see it really, really stoned?
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    Re: Commentary: Why 'Tropic Thunder' shouldn't be seen

    [quote author=Ron_NYC link=topic=15694.msg974868#msg974868 date=1219121406]
    But they made it sound like all they did was make fun of the industry. Like it was non stop laughs where they made fun of everyone and everything, and Ben Stiller is back on top!
    I dunno man.....you hate Diablo Cody too.
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    I don't hate Diabo Cody, I find her marginally talented and contemptible as person.  But regarding the movie, it was just sight gag after sight gag.  Ben Stiller is too much of an industry asshole to make fun of himself.  The movie actually embodies all the cheap cheesy industry things it should be lampooning.
    [quote author=Evolved1 link=topic=15694.msg974876#msg974876 date=1219121610]
    What if you're not retarded, but go see it really, really stoned?
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    Well, there's a little kid ninja which is like golden for stoned people.


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    Re: Commentary: Why 'Tropic Thunder' shouldn't be seen

    retarded is an actual scientific term.
    re·tard  
    –verb (used with object) 1. to make slow; delay the development or progress of (an action, process, etc.); hinder or impede.  
    –verb (used without object) 2. to be delayed.  
    –noun 3. a slowing down, diminution, or hindrance, as in a machine.  

    and helllloooooooooooooo its a comedy, fucking laugh!
    stoopid retards!!

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    The movie wasn't making fun of retarded people. It was making fun of actors who played retarded people.
    Even so, it wasn't that bad. The way it's portrayed in these articles makes it sound soooo much worse than it was.
    That doesn't matter though.
    The movie blew.
    Except the part where they threw the little baby.
    Hysterical.

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    [quote author=[Pandora] link=topic=15694.msg974974#msg974974 date=1219125001]
    The movie wasn't making fun of retarded people. It was making fun of actors who played retarded people.
    That doesn't matter though.
    The movie blew.
    Except the part where they threw the little baby.
    Hysterical.
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    Yeah, but you can't expect the organization putting together the boycott to understand that.  I mean, they're a bunch of retards.

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    "Too many OB/GYN's aren't able to practice their love with women all across the country." GW Bush
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    FYI, OB/GYN's do not practice love.  Nothing could be further from the truth.  They are criminals who de-sex women for profit.  They have done this to over 1/3rd of the population of women in the United States.  This is a true fact.  I was castrated and desexed by an ob/gyn without my consent and it is a country wide problem in the United States.  Please read what women are saying about OB/GYN's at: 

    http://hysterectomyinformation.blogs...?commentPage=2

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    www.hersfoundation.org

    Get educated so this will not be done to more women.

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    [quote author=Castrated By OB/GYN link=topic=15694.msg999475#msg999475 date=1220990732]
    FYI, OB/GYN's do not practice love.  Nothing could be further from the truth.  They are criminals who de-sex women for profit.  They have done this to over 1/3rd of the population of women in the United States.  This is a true fact.  I was castrated and desexed by an ob/gyn without my consent and it is a country wide problem in the United States.  Please read what women are saying about OB/GYN's at: 

    http://hysterectomyinformation.blogs...?commentPage=2

    and

    www.hersfoundation.org

    Get educated so this will not be done to more women.
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    Do you mind if I ask what procedure you went in for?

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    Do you mind if I ask what procedure you went in for?
    Sure, I didn't go in for any procedure.  I had pain and went to the hospital for help.  Instead of getting help, I woke up without any female organs.  This is done to women in many different ways, but bottom line is that they are not told the truth and wake up castrated and de-sexed.  :2angry:

    Watch the Female Anatomy Video and protect yourself:

    http://www.hersfoundation.org/anatomy/index.html


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    Re: Commentary: Why 'Tropic Thunder' shouldn't be seen

    umm... she picked the tropic thunder thread for this?

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    Re: Commentary: Why 'Tropic Thunder' shouldn't be seen

    [quote author=ZoMyGoddess! link=topic=15694.msg1003529#msg1003529 date=1221235140]
    umm... she picked the tropic thunder thread for this?
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    Well, it was about retarded people.

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