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« Reply #60 on: November 06, 2009, 04:59:53 pm »

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Spc. Jason Dean Hunt

Hunt, 22, of Frederick, Okla., went into the military after graduating from Tipton High School in 2005 and had gotten married just two months ago, his mother, Gale Hunt, said. He had served 3 1/2 years in the Army, including a stint in Iraq.

Gale Hunt said two uniformed soldiers came to her door late Thursday night to notify her of her son's death.

Hunt, known as J.D., was "just kind of a quiet boy and a good kid, very kind," said Kathy Gray, an administrative assistant at Tipton Schools.

His mother said he was family oriented.

"He didn't go in for hunting or sports," Gale Hunt said. "He was a very quiet boy who enjoyed video games."

He had re-enlisted for six years after serving his initial two-year assignment, she said. Jason Hunt was previously stationed at Fort Stewart in Georgia.
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« Reply #61 on: November 06, 2009, 05:01:54 pm »

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Pfc. Aaron Thomas Nemelka

Nemelka, 19, of the Salt Lake City suburb of West Jordan, Utah, chose to join the Army instead of going on a mission for The Church of Jesus Christ of Latter-day Saints, his uncle Christopher Nemelka said.

"As a person, Aaron was as soft and kind and as gentle as they come, a sweetheart," his uncle said. "What I loved about the kid was his independence of thought."

Aaron Nemelka, the youngest of four children, was scheduled to be deployed to Afghanistan in January, his family said in a statement. Nemelka had enlisted in the Army in October 2008, Utah National Guard Lt. Col. Lisa Olsen said.
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« Reply #62 on: November 06, 2009, 05:16:37 pm »

The news is saying that the shooter is still on a ventilator and paralyzed.  I'll try to find a link, I saw it on CNN.  Anderson Cooper was also saying that they dont know whether the suspect will be able to talk to authorities about his motives.
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« Reply #63 on: November 06, 2009, 05:33:19 pm »

I first heard of this story yesterday and all the news over here said the shooter was killed  huh here's a link to a latest article

http://news.sky.com/skynews/Home/World-News/US-Twelve-People-Killed-After-Soldier-Goes-On-Rampage-At-Fort-Hood-Military-Base-In-Texas/Article/200911115440127?lpos=World_News_Article_Related_Content_Region_3&lid=ARTICLE_15440127_US%3A_Twelve_People_Killed_After_Soldier_Goes_On_Rampage_At_Fort_Hood_Military_Base_In_Texas_

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The suspect, named as Major Malik Nadal Hasan, was killed on site after opening fire at the massive Fort Hood complex in Killeen.

Major Hasan, who was armed with two handguns, was thought to be in his late 30s and was an army psychiatrist.
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« Reply #64 on: November 06, 2009, 06:00:41 pm »

yeah, with all the hysteria and every single tom, dick and harry that the news outlets were trying to interview, alot of people said it was 2 shooters, then it was 3 shooters, then it was one shooter was dead and another was cornered...i mean, it was all bullshit, noone knew for certain what was going on at all.  One shooter and he is still alive and in critical condition the last i saw.
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« Reply #65 on: November 06, 2009, 08:54:17 pm »

i don't even know where to begin with this.

they were all so young. 
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« Reply #66 on: November 07, 2009, 04:48:24 am »

This was a very scary moment for me, because I have a friend and an older cousin (who is like a brother) at Fort Hood. And I spent the next several hours after this happened basically having a panic attack. Luckily they were both ok. But RIP to the victims. Sad
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« Reply #67 on: November 07, 2009, 05:58:17 am »

i don't even know where to begin with this.

they were all so young. 

I was expecting to see victims of all ages (18-40). They really were all young. Completely breaks my heart.

 The last I heard the shooter was in a coma so hopefully he wakes up and can give a reason. I just don't understand. If he really did want out of the military and didn't want to go to Iraq, why would he kill a bunch of people? That just doesn't make sense to me at all. Move to Canada or kill yourself but to kill a bunch of innocent people because you didn't want to go to war?  Stupid
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« Reply #68 on: November 07, 2009, 09:47:12 am »

I don't know if his info has been posted but from the radio it was reported that some of the shot were shot by friendly fire from other soldiers trying to shoot back. That's why it's was reported that there could have been up to 3 shooters. 
Another thing I heard was that this may have been premeditated bc the dude cleaned out his apt, gave away belongings, wrote a goodbye note and thanked a friend for being a good friend to him.

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« Reply #69 on: November 07, 2009, 10:13:16 am »

I don't know if his info has been posted but from the radio it was reported that some of the shot were shot by friendly fire from other soldiers trying to shoot back. That's why it's was reported that there could have been up to 3 shooters. 
Another thing I heard was that this may have been premeditated bc the dude cleaned out his apt, gave away belongings, wrote a goodbye note and thanked a friend for being a good friend to him.



i wondered about that.  i remember after v-tech some of my gun-loving friends making the arguement that guns SHOULD be allowed on campus to help prevent these things, stating that if someone had been there and been armed they could have played damage control.  but these are trained professionals and obviously it was no help. 

i'm interested to see how this plays out.  it seems there may have been a lot of signs that were not taken seriously enough to prevent this.  of course, i cannot even beging to understand what facing war is like or the trauma of having to deal with the aftermath and then facing a return. 
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« Reply #70 on: November 08, 2009, 10:53:52 am »

I too think warning signs were missed, sadly most of us just don't THINK like this so we don't think about someone around us going off the deep end.  (Well actually I did once, where I work we had a crazy person with a hit list who carried a gun to work and I was on that list).  I believe he had problems maybe and as time progressed things got worse for him till he did this.  And I feel it was premeditated too.  Will he face the death penalty?  I have been wondering about that?
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« Reply #71 on: November 08, 2009, 11:00:14 am »

I too think warning signs were missed, sadly most of us just don't THINK like this so we don't think about someone around us going off the deep end.  (Well actually I did once, where I work we had a crazy person with a hit list who carried a gun to work and I was on that list).  I believe he had problems maybe and as time progressed things got worse for him till he did this.  And I feel it was premeditated too.  Will he face the death penalty?  I have been wondering about that?

arent military courts harsher than civilian courts.  Cant he get the death penalty? 

in these situations its best that they kill themselves.  its a waste of money to have a trial, we know he did it, he should just die.
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« Reply #72 on: November 08, 2009, 11:04:09 am »

arent military courts harsher than civilian courts.  Cant he get the death penalty? 

in these situations its best that they kill themselves.  its a waste of money to have a trial, we know he did it, he should just die.


I hope someone who knows will come on and answer this question.  From what I have read if they can prove it is premeditated they can put the DP ont he table.  If they prove he just "snapped" then I don't know.  His actions make me believe it was premeditate.  Especially given he WAS going to be deployed but it could have been months and he was obviously preparing to never go back to his apt.  Call me cruel, but the idea of him trapped in his own body; having to contemplate the hurt and suffering he caused when he can't even off himself makes me sort of happy.  I would not normally feel that way, but he chose to hurt innocent people in whatever quest he decided he had to go on and for that, I am SO glad he didn't get the easy way out.
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« Reply #73 on: November 08, 2009, 01:57:10 pm »

http://mydeathspace.com/article/2009/11/08/Pvt__Aaron_Nemelka_(19),_Sgt__Amy_Krueger_(29),_along_with_eleven_others,_were_killed_when_an_Army_psychiatrist_allegedly_opened_fire_on_fellow_soldiers_at_Fort_Hood,_Texas



This is so sad. It happened about an hour away from where I live.
Some of the soldiers that attended classes with the alleged shooter said that he would go on anti-american rants and even complained about him. But, there are many mass killers that are American, so until more comes out about motives or any ties to terrorist organizations, I'm going to keep race and religion out of it.
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« Reply #74 on: November 09, 2009, 03:08:37 am »

http://mydeathspace.com/article/2009/11/08/Pvt__Aaron_Nemelka_(19),_Sgt__Amy_Krueger_(29),_along_with_eleven_others,_were_killed_when_an_Army_psychiatrist_allegedly_opened_fire_on_fellow_soldiers_at_Fort_Hood,_Texas



This is so sad. It happened about an hour away from where I live.
Some of the soldiers that attended classes with the alleged shooter said that he would go on anti-american rants and even complained about him. But, there are many mass killers that are American, so until more comes out about motives or any ties to terrorist organizations, I'm going to keep race and religion out of it.

Where I keep thinking about religion and race in this instance is the Muslims who are going to be treated badly because of what THIS one did.  I mean Muslims were treated terribly after 9/11....think what this will do as well....
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« Reply #75 on: November 09, 2009, 07:16:28 am »

http://mydeathspace.com/article/2009/11/08/Pvt__Aaron_Nemelka_(19),_Sgt__Amy_Krueger_(29),_along_with_eleven_others,_were_killed_when_an_Army_psychiatrist_allegedly_opened_fire_on_fellow_soldiers_at_Fort_Hood,_Texas



This is so sad. It happened about an hour away from where I live.
Some of the soldiers that attended classes with the alleged shooter said that he would go on anti-american rants and even complained about him. But, there are many mass killers that are American, so until more comes out about motives or any ties to terrorist organizations, I'm going to keep race and religion out of it.

Yeah i agree. I honestly didn't even think anything about race/religion aspects when I heard about it. I thought it would've been some mental health issues or he just "snapped" - not so much based on hatred. Such a sad story, can't help but imagine what they were all thinking as their fellow soldiers were getting shot - so scary and heart breaking.
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« Reply #76 on: November 09, 2009, 10:20:42 am »

I'm glad they aren't playing the race/religion card because that would really annoy me. I was expecting for the media to be all like.. he's Muslim, so he must be a terrorist.  Shake Head

I find myself feeling sorry for the guy despite what he's done. I know I wouldn't be able to cope with listening to everyone's horror stories everyday and then having to go there myself and experience it. It's no excuse for killing innocent people, but I do see why it could cause such emotional turmoil. From what I've read he did try to get out, but he still owed time because they put him through medical school. They should have done more to help him before it escalated to this.

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« Reply #77 on: November 09, 2009, 10:40:16 am »

I'm glad they aren't playing the race/religion card because that would really annoy me. I was expecting for the media to be all like.. he's Muslim, so he must be a terrorist.  Shake Head

I find myself feeling sorry for the guy despite what he's done. I know I wouldn't be able to cope with listening to everyone's horror stories everyday and then having to go there myself and experience it. It's no excuse for killing innocent people, but I do see why it could cause such emotional turmoil. From what I've read he did try to get out, but he still owed time because they put him through medical school. They should have done more to help him before it escalated to this.

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they can't really call him a terrorist by definition anyway.  i believe to be an act of terror it has to be a crime against civilians. 

i understand feeling some form of sypmathy for this guy, i don't know what it must be like to be affected by war like this.  this guy was even a mental health professional.  i hope those returning from war with mental health issues can start getting the help they need, because right now i believe the system is failing them.  cry
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« Reply #78 on: November 09, 2009, 11:30:22 am »

Sad

My friend is a therapist and travels to Fort Hood every other month to work with those returning from Iraq. She is completely and totally devastated, as she knew a couple of those killed. Thank goodness she was not there when it happened.

She was called Friday morning and is working with the victims families there now.
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« Reply #79 on: November 09, 2009, 02:46:12 pm »

There's a guy in my speech class whose wife works at Ft. Hood. He said she has access to records and she pulled up Hasaan's and it said he'd gone to school in Syria at one point. I don't know why this hasn't made the news or anything though.
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