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Author Topic: Joey Tanner (16) was stabbed to death when a gang of teens got into a fight  (Read 33870 times)
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« Reply #460 on: October 21, 2009, 03:52:26 am »

Letting everyone know joey's new date for trial is febuary 16 2001 that will be 32 months to the day he was murdered. That is just sicking to me i'm so tired of waiting for the whole thing to be over.
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« Reply #461 on: October 21, 2009, 04:02:58 am »

Letting everyone know joey's new date for trial is febuary 16 2001 that will be 32 months to the day he was murdered. That is just sicking to me i'm so tired of waiting for the whole thing to be over.

Guess we all missed that by about a decade.
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« Reply #462 on: October 21, 2009, 04:04:55 am »

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« Reply #463 on: October 21, 2009, 07:16:33 am »

a decade ago murder was still happening whether you can spell or not and i still had joey
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« Reply #464 on: October 21, 2009, 07:21:37 am »

32 months does seem like a long time. That's almost 3 years! Isn't justice supposed to be swift?
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« Reply #465 on: October 21, 2009, 07:31:57 am »

a decade ago murder was still happening whether you can spell or not and i still had joey

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32 months? Ugh. Too long.  angry
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« Reply #466 on: October 29, 2009, 10:36:10 am »

I have decided to give up on this whole trial by the time feburary comes i don't think i can disrupt my life again. It dosn't matter to me what happens to the guy that did this because it won't change a thing for me the outcome will always stay the same joey is gone and that the bottom line.
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« Reply #467 on: October 29, 2009, 10:47:30 am »

I have decided to give up on this whole trial by the time feburary comes i don't think i can disrupt my life again. It dosn't matter to me what happens to the guy that did this because it won't change a thing for me the outcome will always stay the same joey is gone and that the bottom line.

Oh Liz, I am so sorry. I wish we could change the outcome so much. I do hope that justice is served for Joey and your family. Is there a chance that you could read a victim impact statement in the trial? Or have someone read it for you? I don't know if that is an option?
It will be nice when little Zoey arrives to bring some joy to you next month. I love how her name rhymes with Joey's.  Hug
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« Reply #468 on: October 29, 2009, 04:26:32 pm »

Thanks and yes I could read a victim inpact statement but i just don't see how it would make any difference with the monster that did it. He just does not care that he took a life his whole thing in this is that it becomes all about him and i just don't think he deserves anything from me he took too much already but maybe i will feel different in feburary i just don't know.
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« Reply #469 on: October 31, 2009, 04:38:53 pm »

Thanks and yes I could read a victim inpact statement but i just don't see how it would make any difference with the monster that did it. He just does not care that he took a life his whole thing in this is that it becomes all about him and i just don't think he deserves anything from me he took too much already but maybe i will feel different in feburary i just don't know.
Liz, you might not feel that right now about the impact statement but it might be very therapeutic for you.  The people or person responsible needs to hear from the mother of the person they so heartlessly murdered.  Believe it or not, but your words alone and how you feel about living life without your son can be the most torturous for those responsible.  It's also possible that it wont affect them at all but you deserve to say your piece and get it out.  This might be your one real chance to really let everyone know how much hurt, pain and agony this has caused you. 

I hope you really think about it and I'm sending positive thoughts out to you and your daughter.  Things will never be the same but you guys are always going to be survivors because of this. 

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« Reply #470 on: November 01, 2009, 01:51:57 pm »

I have decided to give up on this whole trial by the time feburary comes i don't think i can disrupt my life again. It dosn't matter to me what happens to the guy that did this because it won't change a thing for me the outcome will always stay the same joey is gone and that the bottom line.

Vernice is right.  Icing Sugar is right.  But you know what?  Only you can make that choice for you, Liz.  And it is okay to not go to the trial.

Joey is gone.  Nothing you or me or anyone does will change that.  Isn't that a hard thing to acknowledge?  As his mother, I know you feel the need to do something, anything, anything at all to change what happened.  But you can't.  I can't change it either as a random mother who can only guess at the pain you must be feeling.

I firmly believe that things happen our lives because something else happened previously - a "ripple effect" if you can think of it like that.  And your granddaughter, Zoey, will certainly open a whole new piece of your heart.  This I do know for sure (my grandson was a week old yesterday).   

With her here, you may not want to disrupt your new life for the monster that took away your old life.  If you don't want to do it, then don't give him the power to again impact your life.

I wish only the best for you and Lacey and baby Zoey.  The Hoage/Tanner family definitely deserves some joy.   Hug 

We want pictures when she arrives!!!  Heart

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« Reply #471 on: November 02, 2009, 08:38:24 am »

Today the trial was suppose to start and i guess i'm just so angry that its been delayed. It's just killing me that Joseph Danial Nichocolson that is his name gets to decide he is not ready to go to trial and they allow him to play these games with the court system. I just wanted to be done and over with because other mothers that I have talked to say when the guilty verdict is read you get a kinda of closure and it gives you great feeling of peace and you are able to take that back to your lost love one. Every time i go to his grave i feel like i should be able to tell him that i got justice for him and it hurts so much not to be able to just tell him that.
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« Reply #472 on: November 02, 2009, 08:59:36 am »

Today the trial was suppose to start and i guess i'm just so angry that its been delayed. It's just killing me that Joseph Danial Nichocolson that is his name gets to decide he is not ready to go to trial and they allow him to play these games with the court system. I just wanted to be done and over with because other mothers that I have talked to say when the guilty verdict is read you get a kinda of closure and it gives you great feeling of peace and you are able to take that back to your lost love one. Every time i go to his grave i feel like i should be able to tell him that i got justice for him and it hurts so much not to be able to just tell him that.

It isn't fair. Not at all. And nothing I say will make you feel better I know but do know that I am thinking of you. And I truly hope that this time next year, the trial will be behind you and justice will be served and you will be planning little Zoey's first birthday party.

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« Reply #473 on: November 02, 2009, 10:58:25 am »

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« Reply #474 on: November 02, 2009, 11:03:57 am »

this video and song was done by two of joey's friends a few days after he was killed let me know what you think
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« Reply #475 on: November 03, 2009, 10:01:34 am »

Today I have finally recieved the funeral expenses for joey from the Ontario Goverment and that is all they covered I just can't believe they gave us nothing for pain and suffering but it's better than nothing since the way they decide these claims and payouts are to determine if he cause his own death in anyway. So I feel a little better knowing they know he did nothing to cause his own and that it was an injustice to me and my family even if it took 29 months I guess I'm satisfied with it.
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« Reply #476 on: November 03, 2009, 11:23:17 am »

The government must have figured that Joey shouldn't have been involved in the conflict to begin with, which is why they didn't pay for pain and suffering.
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« Reply #477 on: November 03, 2009, 11:27:53 am »

The government must have figured that Joey shouldn't have been involved in the conflict to begin with, which is why they didn't pay for pain and suffering.

Why the fuck would you say something like that to a family member- his MOTHER for christ sakes? Did you even read her post?  angry

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« Reply #478 on: November 03, 2009, 11:57:14 am »

I didn't say that to anyone in particular, or I didn't intend to at least. I was just postulating why the government wouldn't pay for pain and sufferring if the manner of death is something they look at closely. Sounds like insurance companies when they payout only based on who much they think it was your fault vs. the other person.
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« Reply #479 on: November 03, 2009, 12:27:57 pm »

I didn't say that to anyone in particular, or I didn't intend to at least. I was just postulating why the government wouldn't pay for pain and sufferring if the manner of death is something they look at closely. Sounds like insurance companies when they payout only based on who much they think it was your fault vs. the other person.

Well, I still feel like it was very insensitive to write that right below that post by Joey's mom.
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